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Alex 35079 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 22 minutes ago, ewerk said: Only Southgate could take a squad with attacking talent that is the envy of world football and come up with those stats. The bloke’s still on about Kalvin Phillips, man. A lad who did a decent job for England. But who’s also, even at his best, a limited, defensive-minded, safety first robot. Who also arguably held the team back as an attacking unit even when he was a mainstay. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33180 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 He'd never say it and might not want the job yet but deep down you'd imagine Howe thinking how he'd go about managing and coaching those England players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMXXVIII 1293 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: He'd never say it and might not want the job yet but deep down you'd imagine Howe thinking how he'd go about managing and coaching those England players. Klopp and Postecoglu would give winning a tournament a good crack as well. Realistically, I'd hold off for the latter to get sacked by Levy and appoint him in November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8ptDIsM0Yk/?igsh=MTV6MjAxYjM3b2Fieg== 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Alex said: Bellingham has done ok. It’s not really the system imo. It’s the way it’s being implemented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 DON'T YOU DARE CRITICSE HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 15 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said: He’s also scored one goal in a team that’s created next to fuck all over three games and has only managed two goals. He’s a central midfielder being shoehorned into a no. 10 as well imo. He’s only 20 ffs. I wasn’t making a case for him being brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrRaspberryJam Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 minute ago, Alex said: He’s also scored one goal in a team that’s created next to fuck all over three games and has only managed two goals. He’s a central midfielder being shoehorned into a no. 10 as well imo. He’s only 20 ffs. I wasn’t making a case for him being brilliant. You inboxed me last night saying he’s been player of the tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Aye hence why I said it's not his fault but Southgates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: You inboxed me last night 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, wykikitoon said: Aye hence why I said it's not his fault but Southgates. He’s getting the worst out of Foden too. When he plays there for Man City they’ve got width supplied by the leftback. This naturally creates options for him to come inside. Trippier, apart from not playing much in recent months, is far less comfortable overlapping on that side. Seeing Foden hugging the touchline (exactly where you’d be happiest if you were our opponents), isolated and frustrated was fucking soul destroying. I bet there’s loads of the players having a go at the manager in their private conversations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9748 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, Alex said: He’s getting the worst out of Foden too. When he plays there for Man City they’ve got width supplied by the leftback. This naturally creates options for him to come inside. Trippier, apart from not playing much in recent months, is far less comfortable overlapping on that side. Seeing Foden hugging the touchline (exactly where you’d be happiest if you were our opponents), isolated and frustrated was fucking soul destroying. I bet there’s loads of the players having a go at the manager in their private conversations. Except Trippier who has left them all on unread in the group chat whilst he frantically tries to find a suitable divorce lawyer. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Honestly wish I had not watched any of these England games, insipid stuff. Just fucking have a go you boring cunt. It's worse that watching Davis v Hendry back in the 80s. BORING CUNTS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 11 hours ago, Rayvin said: Southgate is a fucking bellend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, trophyshy said: Honestly wish I had not watched any of these England games, insipid stuff. Just fucking have a go you boring cunt. It's worse that watching Davis v Hendry back in the 80s. BORING CUNTS 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Who do we play next? I am so rancidly disgusted by it all I refuse to research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 48 minutes ago, Alex said: He’s getting the worst out of Foden too. When he plays there for Man City they’ve got width supplied by the leftback. This naturally creates options for him to come inside. Trippier, apart from not playing much in recent months, is far less comfortable overlapping on that side. Seeing Foden hugging the touchline (exactly where you’d be happiest if you were our opponents), isolated and frustrated was fucking soul destroying. I bet there’s loads of the players having a go at the manager in their private conversations. reminds me of the days when we tried to shoehorn lampard, gerrard and scholes into midfield instead of playing players in their best positions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Sunday at five. Can't see how this team beats anyone regardless of what side of the draw we're in. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15525 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 minutes ago, trophyshy said: Who do we play next? I am so rancidly disgusted by it all I refuse to research. Either the Netherlands or whoever finishes 3rd in the Romania/Belgium/Slovakia/Ukraine group, depending on nerdy permutations (surely the best kind of permutation). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7083 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Can't see us beating any of them. Au revoir cocknose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 minutes ago, Meenzer said: Either the Netherlands or whoever finishes 3rd in the Romania/Belgium/Slovakia/Ukraine group, depending on nerdy permutations (surely the best kind of permutation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17255 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) I think after the relative success of WC 2018 the England squad/team largely picked itself. Southgate has never had to deal with “generational” talents emerging and upsetting his cosy wee set up. Now for the first time he’s got to properly think about team selection he’s fucked. Which was very likely always on the cards. Tbf he had Foden and Bellingham at the WC in Qatar but neither of them at that point had come off the back of what might prove to be the best seasons in their club careers’ which makes them completely different propositions in terms of how they’re perceived by the general public and more significantly for Southgate personally the English football media. He knew he’d be fuckin crucified if he didn’t pick them both. He probably knew without a proper left back the logical pick on the left was Gordon with his Kenyan marathon runners’ stamina combined with a sprinter’s electric pace he would’ve been able to patrol the entire left hand side single handed and interact with the attacking midfielders as he’d done very effectively in the recent firiendly games, rather than relying on an an overlapping full back to provide support more often than not. Looks the same the other side re Saka/Palmer. Southgate has got it half right, he picked the PL’s form players in the squad. Then he went with loyalty to those in his pecking order and has shown signs this week that he’s willing to ditch them if it’s not going right. Has he got the balls to start Gordon, Palmer and Mainoo on Sunday?… for me he needs to drop one of the two that have caused all this bother for him this summer too.. two of the best half dozen attacking players in Europe… thing is, his coach at Euro 96 Terry Venables has shown him the way him. No fuckin way would virtually any other manager have stick with Shearer before the tournament started. The strikers ignored by Venables in favour of Shearer and the 30 year old Sheringham is fuckin jaw dropping. Venables told him not to listen to the press and he was his no.9. He told STEVE FUCKIN HOWEY in the winter of 1996 that he was in the squad, not only that but he was starting 2 out of the 3 group games (Howey said all this in a podcast) That’s the sort of single mindedness required but I don’t think nice guy Gareth has ever been remotely equipped to think along those lines. He wants to make everyone happy including the media. Venables knew he knew more about football than the craven tabloid wankers that followed the England team around in the mid 90s . More importantly he made damn sure that they all knew he knew more than them too. That’s a rare gift. We’ll see if Gareth has learned anything on Sunday… Edited June 26 by PaddockLad 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, trophyshy said: Who do we play next? I am so rancidly disgusted by it all I refuse to research. One of the as yet to be decided 3rd placed teams. But it’s Sunday at 5pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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