Tdansmith 3259 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, Andrew said: Ayoze coming on! His first game for Spain ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Tdansmith said: His first game for Spain ? second 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Add Spain to the list of teams that would beat us comfortably. Italy probably would as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Holden McGroin said: Add Spain to the list of teams that would beat us comfortably. Italy probably would as well. Your man Gareth ✅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I don't think the Philips comment is gonna go down well Gaz mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 Perez is playing like prime Ronaldo here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 9 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Your man Gareth ✅ And over rated players. Edited June 20 by Holden McGroin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 2 hours ago, Dazzler said: It’s because he “doesn’t have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips” -direct quote. Tells you exactly where he’s at as a manager. Appalling. We do. He's called Declan Rice. Play him in front of the back 4 if you must and allow the rest of the players to actually have a go at the teams who are MUCH WORSE THAN US! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17256 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Micky Merino on now 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2964 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9774 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I would certainly feel a lot better with Kalvin Philips playing for your lot. I agree that he hasn’t been properly replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Hog 518 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3329 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Eze 10/10 Southgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 9 hours ago, Isegrim said: I would like to say how ordinary you lot look and that I am delighted. But then you lot would probably come back looking like Brazil 1970and win the tournament. Therefore I have to say how sad I am that you are looking so ordinary. I really, really hope you will improve in the second half 7 hours ago, Isegrim said: I am soooo disappointed. Sad. 5 hours ago, Isegrim said: I would certainly feel a lot better with Kalvin Philips playing for your lot. I agree that he hasn’t been properly replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 7 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Southgate’s post-match interview on the BBC said we don’t have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 In fairness to Southgate he hasn’t had a whole lot of time to prepare for this situation. No one expected Philips form to drop off a cliff after two years of not playing football. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 ewerk up early sniffing the loungers where those American lasses lie. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonotl 2978 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I have to say that the combination of England's almost unheard of wealth of attacking options and Southgate's overwhelming commitment to making each game a complete snorefest, from an Australian perspective, is nothing short of pure theatre. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17256 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Just heard lots of post match comments from the England players and the manager on 5live…..they’ve all identified what’s going wrong and they all seem to agree with what Shearer and Lineker were saying too (although the singling out of Kane was both bizarre and fuckin unfair I thought) about the pedestrian nature of play, the confused nature of how the press is being deployed and the poor use of the ball in general. It all points to them being woefully under prepared and frankly confused. The Calvin Phillips comment from Southgate was bullshit desperation from someone apparently clearly out of his depth. Which tbf is a distinct change from all the preceding tournaments where Southgate has been manager where the players have plainly bought into what was being asked of them . This with a remaining core of the team from Southgate’s first success in reaching World Cup semi in 2018 ie Kane, Walker, Tripps, Pickford (and if he was fit McGuire) When you think about it it’s fuckin bizarre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 29 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Just heard lots of post match comments from the England players and the manager on 5live…..they’ve all identified what’s going wrong and they all seem to agree with what Shearer and Lineker were saying too (although the singling out of Kane was both bizarre and fuckin unfair I thought) about the pedestrian nature of play, the confused nature of how the press is being deployed and the poor use of the ball in general. It all points to them being woefully under prepared and frankly confused. The Calvin Phillips comment from Southgate was bullshit desperation from someone apparently clearly out of his depth. Which tbf is a distinct change from all the preceding tournaments where Southgate has been manager where the players have plainly bought into what was being asked of them . This with a remaining core of the team from Southgate’s first success in reaching World Cup semi in 2018 ie Kane, Walker, Tripps, Pickford (and if he was fit McGuire) When you think about it it’s fuckin bizarre The captain coming out post match and saying "we don't know how to pressure, we don't know who goes and who stays" suggests there's just zero instruction from the manager. It's a fairly significant breaking of the ranks from Kane. It also suggests we're probably not far from a mid tournament summit meeting between senior players and the management. If Kane is right about the lack of direction, I'm sure that made it even more galling that he was subbed off early. Edited June 21 by Gemmill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Didn’t watch the game but the TAA situation is so strange because Mainoo, Gallagher and Wharton are all better options there. But the most obvious solution to me would be to play the lad who’s just had a fantastic season with the best club side in the world alongside Rice. This would allow Foden to play more centrally too. I know he plays as a nominal LW for his club but he takes up lots of no 10 positions. You can then play Gordon, and him and Saka running in behind means that suits Kane’s tendency to drop deep because those two can utilise their pace in the gaps that would create. It’s all a bit moot as I don’t see any hint Southgate’s going to do it. He’s lost the plot imo. Bit of a sad end to things if we go out in the last 16 / quarter as he’s a likeable lad. But looking at his post match interview, he looked like he didn’t even believe the shite he was coming out with Edited June 21 by Alex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35079 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The captain coming out post match and saying "we don't know how to pressure, we don't know who goes and who stays" suggests there's just zero instruction from the manager. It's a fairly significant breaking of the ranks from Kane. It also suggests we're probably not far from a mid tournament summit meeting between senior players and the management. If Kane is right about the lack of direction, I'm sure that made it even more galling that he was subbed off early. If the manager’s giving it a ‘go out and play your natural game’ type of team talk, that’ll be a million miles away from the intricate instructions players will be getting from their club sides. Can you imagine Guardiola, Howe etc by comparison? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 4 minutes ago, Alex said: If the manager’s giving it a ‘go out and play your natural game’ type of team talk, that’ll be a million miles away from the intricate instructions players will be getting from their club sides. Can you imagine Guardiola, Howe etc by comparison? Aye, the fact that we've played Iceland, Serbia, and Denmark in the last three games and largely been outplayed suggests all isn't well. You're coming up against managers with lesser squads but a well-drilled tactical plan, and it shows. I don't think the instruction is even necessarily to sit back, I think that's just the natural outcome of England not having an organised press and the teams they're playing against having one. They're pinned back rather than sitting back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 You know what's needed? Games that don't have anything riding on them where you can test different players and formations. Games where you can rest large parts of your main team and try and blood in new players. You know, in a friendly atmosphere sort of a way? Maybe against lesser ranked teams like so that the pressure isn't high. Maybe someone should put that to Safegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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