Eddie’s Broon Ale necking Black Garter Slags vs PaddockLad’s mates’ southern softy shandy-drinking la las.

[Andrew 5152]

2 hours ago, strawb said:

 

 

He should have saved the second IMO, he didn’t move his feet well enough and Pope saves it tbh. 
 

 

 

Agreed, it was a terrible one for dubravka to concede.

 

Theres practically no danger at the time the shot is taken, hes being shown outside by burn, hes quite far out at a pretty narrow angle to take on a shot and it just...goes in. It wasnt exactly a rocket of a shot or curling or anything really. 

[RobinRobin 12483]

15 minutes ago, Andrew said:

 

Agreed, it was a terrible one for dubravka to concede.

 

Theres practically no danger at the time the shot is taken, hes being shown outside by burn, hes quite far out at a pretty narrow angle to take on a shot and it just...goes in. It wasnt exactly a rocket of a shot or curling or anything really. 

Ironically saved more difficult ones earlier. 

[wykikitoon 22857]

Spot on @strawb. I also think Botman hasn't been at the level he has been prior to his injury. Is that because he's been rushed back in? If so why? Lascelles was doing a decent job. Slowly introduce Botman back in.

 

Re playing Burn. I think he will again c Arsenal. He did a job on saka before and Howe is hoping he can again. 

 

Will continuing to play Burn and Almiron next season cost Howe his job like some think? 

[Holden McGroin 7618]

3 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Spot on @strawb. I also think Botman hasn't been at the level he has been prior to his injury. Is that because he's been rushed back in? If so why? Lascelles was doing a decent job. Slowly introduce Botman back in.

 

Re playing Burn. I think he will again c Arsenal. He did a job on saka before and Howe is hoping he can again. 

 

Will continuing to play Burn and Almiron next season cost Howe his job like some think? 

No. The mood from some is like we are fighting relegation. If anything 7th is above our station with all the injuries we’ve had. And we’ve had to resort to regularly playing a 17 year old who is 7th choice CM.

 

We’ve got 8 points from 4 games -which is about par.

 

it’s glaring obvious they both need replacing. He isn’t stupid. I suspect we’ll have our eye on Lloyd Kelly on a free in the summer to upgrade Burn.

 

 

[sammynb 3923]

5 hours ago, RobinRobin said:

Ironically saved more difficult ones earlier. 

 

But they were all but straight at him, his reflex saves are good, it's his reading of a ball in flight that is terrible, there were a couple of crosses/set pieces he flapped or tried to punch that had everyone's hearts in their mouths.

[wykikitoon 22857]

30 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

No. The mood from some is like we are fighting relegation. If anything 7th is above our station with all the injuries we’ve had. And we’ve had to resort to regularly playing a 17 year old who is 7th choice CM.

 

We’ve got 8 points from 4 games -which is about par.

 

it’s glaring obvious they both need replacing. He isn’t stupid. I suspect we’ll have our eye on Lloyd Kelly on a free in the summer to upgrade Burn.

 

 

He's another big lad. Didn't realise until yesterday.

[sammynb 3923]

2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

He's another big lad. Didn't realise until yesterday.

 

When they line up before the game, standing next to each other, didn't give you a hint?

[toonotl 3429]

40 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Will continuing to play Burn and Almiron next season cost Howe his job like some think? 

 

I can't really fathom that people are seriously questioning Howe's position. He has so much credit in the bank. And, like Holden mentioned, seventh this season (all things considered) would actually be a good result and improve his station in my opinion. And we're right in the race for seventh. That's fuckin miraculous considering where we were not too long ago with a lot of the same players (who weren't injured and playing on fumes for months on end).

 

Not calling you out Wyki. You're a reasonable voice on here. Just speaking to the question posed. It boils my piss a bit that gobshites on twitter are so hyperbolic. Prolly why I avoid the place. It'd drive me mental.

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

There have been massive implications to the full system when we lost Pope. This has given the very slow defence a lot of extra ground behind them to cover.

 

The loss of Joelinton had given Burn even more ground to cover. I think Tino makes more sense, but even he has not looked *as* good without Pope.

 

Part of me wonders if we have accepted the position that we are in and boxing between what is best in the short, medium and long-term.

 

I thought we would have went for a short-term replacement up front like a Vardy type character, like we did with Wood. I wasnt expecting a midfield replacement with Willock and Anderson not being far off.

 

I wonder if we accepted the need for a short-term fix then (Wood/Burn) but we don't need them now. As much as we would like Champions League next year, maybe a better plan for recruitment and a proper path may be in the offing. 

[ewerk 33215]

21 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

Quayside breakfast with squad member. No biggie. More interesting is who he was dining with

 

 

You got the minibus booked to take you to London next weekend to make sure Ritchie eats his weetabix again?

[RobinRobin 12483]

54 minutes ago, sammynb said:

 

When they line up before the game, standing next to each other, didn't give you a hint?

Too busy calling the ref and the other team cunts. 🙂 

[Dr Gloom 23639]

1 hour ago, toonotl said:

 

I can't really fathom that people are seriously questioning Howe's position. He has so much credit in the bank. And, like Holden mentioned, seventh this season (all things considered) would actually be a good result and improve his station in my opinion. And we're right in the race for seventh. That's fuckin miraculous considering where we were not too long ago with a lot of the same players (who weren't injured and playing on fumes for months on end).

 

Not calling you out Wyki. You're a reasonable voice on here. Just speaking to the question posed. It boils my piss a bit that gobshites on twitter are so hyperbolic. Prolly why I avoid the place. It'd drive me mental.

it’s only the gobshites on Twitter suggesting Howe’s position is in doubt. No real fan wants him gone.
 

The supporters in the stadium back him just as we back him on here because we can see how good a job he’s done in a short space of time, without a blank chequebook and with horrible luck with injuries.

 

Any ”supporters” calling for his head either started supporting the club after the takeover or are clueless, impatient morons 

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

I'm still in two minds as to if FFP is actually doing us a favour. 

 

I am not convinced that us being able to sign indiscriminately would be helpful to a sustainable build. 

 

If we had been able to buy 3 more midfielders in January, it would be great to be able to nurture Miley's development but when do we then give Miley some time? When Willock comes back, when do we play him? I'm not convinced this would be the best environment for the team to develop.

 

I think FFP might actually make us more of a proposition as you are not going to join us on January 1st for another 2 players to be bought on 15th. At least the transfer is a two-way commitment. 

 

I cannot think of a manager, that I would be 100% convinced, if we could do a straight swap for Howe would do as good a job for us in this period of time. 

[Anorthernsoul 1222]

I had this conversation during the week about the goalkeepers, for me Pope is by far the better keeper. There's a direct correlation with the rampant goals conceded after Pope picked up his injury. Yes the defence is to blame aswell but for me that is because Pope is the much better organiser than Dubravka and the back 5 last season was absolutely solid and well drilled. Since Pope went out that back line has been all over the shop and I feel Dubravka isn't vocal enough and doesn't command his box like Nick Pope. Yes he's a decent shot stopper and OK with his feet but there's a lot to be said about Pope's organisational skills and also the defences confidence when Pope plays as to when Dubravka plays they just seem very shaky and teams have picked up on that and happy to attack at abandon.

[Anorthernsoul 1222]

Also I'd like to add my thoughts about Dan Burn, I feel for him a bit as he's blatantly being targeted now and the blind faith Howe is putting in him is costing the team and Burn himself. Dan Burn is a solid defender and been a great servant for us but all players have their restraints/limits and a big lad like Dan it's always going to be pace. The fact he's got little to no protection in the current system Howe plays means he's like a sitting duck at Left Back and with so much space in the channels for speedy wingers every game it's the same story. It would actually be better for Dan Burn to play as the left side of a back 3 to be honest if Howe insists on playing him, that way there's more protection from a wing back and the system is much more compact. Otherwise Tino has to play at Arsenal if Howe keeps the same system, Tino's pace and reading of the game makes him the better left back for me and it cuts out that threat down the oppositions right wing.

[ewerk 33215]

TBF Tino and Hall had just played 90 minutes against Barcelona.

 

 

[wykikitoon 22857]

6 hours ago, sammynb said:

 

When they line up before the game, standing next to each other, didn't give you a hint?

That's when I realised yesterday.  

[Kid Dynamite 7637]

11 hours ago, Andrew said:

 

Agreed, it was a terrible one for dubravka to concede.

 

Theres practically no danger at the time the shot is taken, hes being shown outside by burn, hes quite far out at a pretty narrow angle to take on a shot and it just...goes in. It wasnt exactly a rocket of a shot or curling or anything really. 

He got no "push" off the ground for the dive and was caught flat footed. He should have been on his toes and ready for the shot, but effectively just lay down to his right trying to save it (rather than diving) 

[wykikitoon 22857]

6 hours ago, toonotl said:

 

I can't really fathom that people are seriously questioning Howe's position. He has so much credit in the bank. And, like Holden mentioned, seventh this season (all things considered) would actually be a good result and improve his station in my opinion. And we're right in the race for seventh. That's fuckin miraculous considering where we were not too long ago with a lot of the same players (who weren't injured and playing on fumes for months on end).

 

Not calling you out Wyki. You're a reasonable voice on here. Just speaking to the question posed. It boils my piss a bit that gobshites on twitter are so hyperbolic. Prolly why I avoid the place. It'd drive me mental.

I would agree.  It's the bell ends on Twatter that seem to think this.

To get 7th (if we do) with the injuries we've had is superb.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14671]

I am fucking pig sick of Dubravka, mind. He’s done. Karius cannot be worse, I don’t believe it 

[OTF 8416]

9 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

I am fucking pig sick of Dubravka, mind. He’s done. Karius cannot be worse, I don’t believe it 

 

Dubravka has actually made quite a lot of good saves in the last month including two in this game, but when he does it's more of a shock than anything. Really don't have any confidence in him, I think it's his positioning that is most suspect as sometimes he's beaten like he's not there at all. Slipping over in this one was more unfortunate than anything, it was a questionable backpass combined with a slippery pitch.

 

Karius has looked ok in the limited times he has played, but I feel like Howe won't want to risk destroying Dubravka's confidence by dropping him when Karius is far from a sure thing. He's got to be taking advice and observing in training as well, but not every player who trains well plays well in games and the same can be true in reverse.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14671]

3 hours ago, OTF said:

 

Dubravka has actually made quite a lot of good saves in the last month including two in this game, but when he does it's more of a shock than anything. Really don't have any confidence in him, I think it's his positioning that is most suspect as sometimes he's beaten like he's not there at all. Slipping over in this one was more unfortunate than anything, it was a questionable backpass combined with a slippery pitch.

 

Karius has looked ok in the limited times he has played, but I feel like Howe won't want to risk destroying Dubravka's confidence by dropping him when Karius is far from a sure thing. He's got to be taking advice and observing in training as well, but not every player who trains well plays well in games and the same can be true in reverse.

With Dubravka, it’s clear that his back four have no trust or confidence in him whatsoever. Coupled with his complete lack of communication, it’s a disaster 

[aimaad22 4690]

The pass for the first goal wasn't great but it's the sort modern keepers regularly deal with, yesterday was pretty much all on Dubravka. It wasn't a great performance overall, but he made 2 errors leading to 2 goals. 

 

If there is any room leftover after getting a forward, right winger and left back in the summer, a more able deputy for Pope might be a decent idea. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4268]

This is not a defender showing an attacker “outside” this is a defender asking an attacker to have a go. BDB is miles away from Semenyo who has the whole goal to shoot at

[Holden McGroin 7618]

6 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

This is not a defender showing an attacker “outside” this is a defender asking an attacker to have a go. BDB is miles away from Semenyo who has the whole goal to shoot at

Yeah. That doesn’t happen on Trippiers side, although I still think Dubs should save it.

 

Not only is he deliberately being isolated every game now but his confidence is also pretty low. He’ll he shitting it every break away now.