Newcastle United vs Nottingham Forest

[Holden McGroin 6587]

6 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

It was coming well before. Players are obviously very low on confidence anxious to make mistakes. Almiron being afraid to shoot being the perfect example. 
 

Very frustrating but I don’t get the need to start slagging off players gor things like this.

Aye, the perceived weak link just gets blamed for everything. A lot of fans need to this to make them happy. It used to be Longstaff and probably will be again when Miggy is upgraded.

its not like Howe has a choice to replace Miggy. Maybe he can chuck on a half-fit Joelinton on the left and shift a half-fit Gordon to the right so we can take a half-for Miggy off.

[RobElliott 1493]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

He’d have missed 

Probably would have waited until the car was on his left

[aimaad22 4156]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

the support needs a scapegoat. I had a feeling jt would be Miggy after ASM left 

 Yeah and no relation there in the lack of end product with both I suppose? just fans randomly picking players. 

 

I know some like to think Miggy is picked on but nah. Pretty much everyone is called out when they play poorly including Trips and Bruno. If Miggy is blamed more he's just giving us more opportunities. 

 

Also it's a match thread let people have a moan

 

[Howay 12496]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

He’s had one purple patch since he joined the club and doesn’t give you a lot var graft beyond that. He’s frustrating as fuck. Not sure what your point is re the last bit unless you think you can’t criticise a lack of a ability and a footballing brain

Watch out or everyone will tell you one of the worst players in the press is actually the best, simply because he chases shadows and never wins the ball back. 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

Just now, Alex said:

He’s had one purple patch since he joined the club and doesn’t give you a lot var graft beyond that. He’s frustrating as fuck. Not sure what your point is re the last bit unless you think you can’t criticise a lack of a ability and a footballing brain

Miggy has been vitally important to how we play. He executes the press about as well as anyone in the team, busts a gut every game defensively but his limitations are there for all to see. Ideally he would have been rotated more because he’s a form player out of form. I wouldn’t mind seeing Joelinton on for the second half with Gordon moving over to the right 

[LongTimeAdmirer 1264]

HC trying to dribble ffs, leave it to the experts 

Edited December 26, 2023 by LongTimeAdmirer

[aimaad22 4156]

54 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

 We oughta wait till the 60th minute at least or people will come on saying how critical his lack of end product is to our playing style 

 

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Miggy has been vitally important to how we play. He executes the press about as well as anyone in the team, busts a gut every game defensively but his limitations are there for all to see. Ideally he would have been rotated more because he’s a form player out of form. I wouldn’t mind seeing Joelinton on for the second half with Gordon moving over to the right 

 

 

There it is

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

Livramento offers more than Burn at LB mind. Going up and down the pitch

[Howay 12496]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

Miggy has been vitally important to how we play. He executes the press about as well as anyone in the team, busts a gut every game defensively but his limitations are there for all to see. Ideally he would have been rotated more because he’s a form player out of form. I wouldn’t mind seeing Joelinton on for the second half with Gordon moving over to the right 

He’s dreadful in the press. Just chasing the ball down isn’t pressing, he consistently leaves his man to aimlessly close the keeper from 30 yards out before the keeper then just passes to the full back he’s left wide open. That isn’t pressing, players like Murphy execute the press well, you trap players in and don’t allow the pass eliminating options and creating turnovers - Almiron just runs at players. 
 

He’s not a scapegoat, he’s a poor player he had a good 5 month spell when teams were open to the counter attack but now teams sit deeper against us he has become a massive liability consistently missing chances and playing the wrong pass. In fact Almiron almost just scored an own goal because of his insane decision making. 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

 Yeah and no relation there in the lack of end product with both I suppose? just fans randomly picking players. 

 

I know some like to think Miggy is picked on but nah. Pretty much everyone is called out when they play poorly including Trips and Bruno. If Miggy is blamed more he's just giving us more opportunities. 

 

Also it's a match thread let people have a moan

 

people can moan all they want. Was just agreeing with PL’a point about the amount of grief we all have Miggy compared to the other players who contributed to their goal 

[Holden McGroin 6587]

We’ll be lucky to get through this without conceding another 2 goals.

[wykikitoon 20156]

Almiron trying to score an OG. Get the cunt off. 

[aimaad22 4156]

Just now, Holden McGroin said:

We’ll be lucky to get through this without conceding another 2 goals.

 Yup they look the more likely. Howe made the change on the weekend hope he does so early again. We need the energy from Joe and Tino. 

[Isegrim 9780]

4 minutes ago, Alex said:

He’s had one purple patch since he joined the club and doesn’t give you a lot var graft beyond that. He’s frustrating as fuck. Not sure what your point is re the last bit unless you think you can’t criticise a lack of a ability and a footballing brain

My post wasn’t aimed at you tbh but rather other people. I know that he can be very frustrating and he is certainly a player we can improve on.

l am also not against criticism of players but with Almiron I think a lot is rather unfair and way over the top. He is certainly not as bad as sone people seem to think. Imho of course.

[Isegrim 9780]

Confidence is rock bottom now.

[Holden McGroin 6587]

this could get very embarrassing 

[wykikitoon 20156]

Fuck me

[aimaad22 4156]

Wtf? 

[wykikitoon 20156]

Get Longstaff Miggy and burn off. 

[Holden McGroin 6587]

I don’t think I’ll be watching the liverpool game either.

 

we are physically shot

[aimaad22 4156]

Where is the defence and midfield ffs? Beyond ridiculous 

[wykikitoon 20156]

No doubt Howe will wait until the 78th minute for a change tho

[Dr Gloom 21924]

Just now, Howay said:

He’s dreadful in the press. Just chasing the ball down isn’t pressing, he consistently leaves his man to aimlessly close the keeper from 30 yards out before the keeper then just passes to the full back he’s left wide open. That isn’t pressing, players like Murphy execute the press well, you trap players in and don’t allow the pass eliminating options and creating turnovers - Almiron just runs at players. 
 

He’s not a scapegoat, he’s a poor player he had a good 5 month spell when teams were open to the counter attack but now teams sit deeper against us he has become a massive liability consistently missing chances and playing the wrong pass. In fact Almiron almost just scored an own goal because of his insane decision making. 

nah, you’re wrong there. He’s been instrumental to how we play down the right - both going forwards and backwards.

 

Howe and Tripper have literally spoken about how important Miggy is in how we press. But his obvious weaknesses (decision making in the final third, one-footedness and finishing) were masked when he was scoring for fun last season. 

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Livramento offers more than Burn at LB mind. Going up and down the pitch

Eepecially as a defender...

[Howay 12496]

Burn again