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Aye. Top four is gone for me. Fifth was our best bet.  Sad to say but Villa managed their fixtures/players better.  Fair enough we’ve had a bit of bad luck with injuries but our style of play runs players into the ground. 


I still think we are too threadbare to take Chelsea down and even the unwashed will be a challenge with our abysmal away form.  

Hopefully we can scrape through these games and it will look rosy.

 

 

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:22, Holden McGroin said:

Aye. Top four is gone for me. Fifth was our best bet.  Sad to say but Villa managed their fixtures/players better.  Fair enough we’ve had a bit of bad luck with injuries but our style of play runs players into the ground. 


I still think we are too threadbare to take Chelsea down and even the unwashed will be a challenge with our abysmal away form.  

Hopefully we can scrape through these games and it will look rosy.

 

 

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I know the disappointment is raw but this is an incredibly negative take.

 

There is nothing to suggest we will lose to Chelsea. They’ve been dogshit for a couple of seasons. 
 

It’s been a massively disappointing week of results but we’ve been as good as Chelsea have been shit over the same time period.

 

We probably won’t won’t get champions league this season but I wouldn’t bet against it. Our chance of doing it again has increased now we don’t have the extra European fixtures. 

 

Remember how low we felt after the league cup final defeat. Remember what happened next. The manager galvanised the players and we finished 4th. 
 

As for losing to the mackems - howay man. I didn’t have you down as a bed wetter 

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:22, Holden McGroin said:

Aye. Top four is gone for me. Fifth was our best bet.  Sad to say but Villa managed their fixtures/players better.  Fair enough we’ve had a bit of bad luck with injuries but our style of play runs players into the ground. 


I still think we are too threadbare to take Chelsea down and even the unwashed will be a challenge with our abysmal away form.  

Hopefully we can scrape through these games and it will look rosy.

 

 

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Even Renton would think this is negative :lol: 

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:42, Dr Gloom said:


 

 

There is nothing to suggest we will lose to Chelsea. They’ve been dogshit for a couple of seasons. 
 


 

As for losing to the mackems - howay man. I didn’t have you down as a bed wetter 

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Have you seen us play away this year? Even the Nerd boys will back that up cold hard facts if you think you're eyes are deceiving you.

 

 

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Do you remember when we lost a cup final last season? 

I can't believe some of you didn't actually just end it all when that happened based on the reactions to us going out of the Champions League in disappointing but (be honest) expected fashion from the hardest group in the competition

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:48, Holden McGroin said:

 

Have you seen us play away this year? Even the Nerd boys will back that up cold hard facts if you think you're eyes are deceiving you.

 

 

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i've seen good performances and bad ones away from home this year - it hasn't been as shit as the result have suggested, the last two away performance aside. certainly not enough to suggest we won't beat sunlan

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:48, Andrew said:

Do you remember when we lost a cup final last season? 

I can't believe some of you didn't actually just end it all when that happened based on the reactions to us going out of the Champions League in disappointing but (be honest) expected fashion from the hardest group in the competition

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Not at all. Im basing this on our squad fatigue, injuries and abysmal away record. 

 

Just for the record im fully behind all management and team. Im not the type to target individual players when we don't win.  The upcoming fixtures are a big test to us with the state of the squad. We could sail through two cup competitions and all will look peachy again.

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  On 14/12/2023 at 09:50, Dr Gloom said:

 

i've seen good performances and bad ones away from home this year - it hasn't been as shit as the result have suggested, the last two away performance aside. certainly not enough to suggest we won't beat sunlan

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I don't think it will be a walk in the park with our away record. And we've gone out to Sheff Wed (3rd tier) and Cambridge (4th tier?)  in the past two seasons.

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1 win in 6 is the bottom line when all context is removed and that am suspecting will be the bottom line in Riyadh. Last season was a continuation of the joy of 7 October 2021 and the part season that followed. This season is the real transitional season when what we properly need to move to the next level can be assessed. There’s a chance PiF will want to try to ensure champions league football next season, FFP notwithstanding. Six Bruce era players on the pitch at full time last night :cuppa: 

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How much of our away form is down to the fatigue and injuries? It's a lot different playing in an environment where there are thousands of people against you as opposed to cheering you on. Adrenaline is a fucking mental thing. We haven't even been that shit away from home other than the last few weeks.

 

City away - held them to a goal, how many teams will do that? Not many.

 

Battered Man Utd at old trafford

 

Battered Sheff Utd when the other "big" teams were struggling to put many past them.

 

Milan - Held them to a draw.

 

PSG - Robbed.

 

Wolves and West Ham - Draws but these are both teams in decent form and very hard to beat, so draws are good results IMO.

 

Brighton - Dog shit - our worst performance this season all things considered.

 

The recent ones are down to the same players playing almost every minute of every game, coupled with it being away from home. Plus we've been away from home a lot lately it feels, that doesn't help. Once we have a bench of legit squad players back in the fold our form will absolutely improve. If it doesn't, I have a load of pitch forks and tiki torches I can sell you. I'll set up a little stand outside the training ground and make a fucking fortune.

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  On 14/12/2023 at 12:58, Howmanheyman said:

Was a pleasure to meet and chat with @thebrokendolllast night before the game, good crack indeed but I was expecting a gnarled, weathered old sweat but he was actually a well spoken chap, not too dissimilar to Jacob Rees Mogg in looks and speech. :good:

 

 

 

 

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likewise meeting you mate!

spot on description too, i've always liked to think of meself as a well heeled, hugely respected member of the cotswolds gentry.

counting down the days now to the boxing day hunts.

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  On 14/12/2023 at 12:58, Howmanheyman said:

Was a pleasure to meet and chat with @thebrokendolllast night before the game, good crack indeed but I was expecting a gnarled, weathered old sweat but he was actually a well spoken chap, not too dissimilar to Jacob Rees Mogg in looks and speech. :good:

 

 

 

 

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What time did you get back from Cheltenham this morning then? :lol:

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  On 14/12/2023 at 12:58, Howmanheyman said:

Was a pleasure to meet and chat with @thebrokendolllast night before the game, good crack indeed but I was expecting a gnarled, weathered old sweat but he was actually a well spoken chap, not too dissimilar to Jacob Rees Mogg in looks and speech. :good:

 

 

 

 

;)

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Are you sure you didn't meet up with - erm - Jacob Rees Mogg? 

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There’s some bellend from some soi-disant ‘human rights organisation’ from Cheltenham keeps sending (what I consider to be) spurious FOI requests to the cabinet office. I hadn’t put two and two together until now ;) 

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The manner in which last night unfolded was a sickening. Seeing us second and then have both games turn in a matter of minutes. 

 

Ultimately I'm not really bothered tbh. As others have said this was a brilliant adventure, we were never going to get too far or win the competition. Under the circumstances the team has done very well even if we've won 1 game out of 6.

 

If this felt like a one time thing I'd be more disappointed, but it's not. That is the key. In a year or two we'll be back and much stronger for this experience.

 

I know this being NUFC you always feel like things are going to fall apart sooner or later, but it really does feel different this time because the owners have thus far taken all the right steps in building a successful sustainable club. 

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  On 14/12/2023 at 17:27, aimaad22 said:

 

 

If this felt like a one time thing I'd be more disappointed, but it's not. That is the key. In a year or two we'll be back and much stronger for this experience.

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Aye. 
We came in to this as very much underdogs of the group. 
When we get back in to it, there’s at least three teams now who’ll not fancy drawing us after the games we gave them. 
We’ll also be a better side by then. 

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