Eddie and Mad Dog's Ponderous and Clumsy Useless Shites v The Ghost of Ivan Toney's, can I get 3/1 for that, Bees

[Howay 12496]

 So from the sounds of his post the PL is far better to watch than the less skillful less talented version. There’s also not a single chance the game is faster at that level and anyone that says it is simply doesn’t understand the game . 

[sammynb 3923]

Something still doesn't look right, the team isn't pressing the way they did last season. Many of you said Gordon had a great game, yes there was lots of tireless running and he did well to earn the pen but his final ball and a lot of the time he seems to be on his heels when he should be anticipating things. Though Barnes also had a touch of the Miggy's today with wanting to constantly come inside on his favoured foot.

Burn got caught out early but after the first 20 minutes he had their right wing under control. Bruno's was more like his old self and Longy made a huge difference. I think with Bruno and Longstaff on the pitch, we probably would have got more out of Miggy today than Gordon but who knows.

 

The thing for me about the overturned penalty is the referee has blown straight away and we had possession and yet he restarts it by giving an uncontested drop ball to their keeper - forgetting all the was it, should it, why the fuck does the team with possession lose the ball in that circumstance?

Three points is three points, so onwards, they just need to get this nervous shite out of their game, too many aimless or hit and hope balls being played atm.

[RobinRobin 12486]

5 hours ago, Howay said:

This is why I say it was a pen btw. As last season we were told by the whole media that Burn had his arm in an unnatural position as it was high, it blocked a chance etc. now I’m hearing similar voices in the press saying it would have been harsh. Either stick to the rule or fix the rule, increasingly growing bored of the inconsistency and poor standards. 

I think the fact that it came of his head first made the difference. 

[Holden McGroin 7625]

According to Goodman (who sounds like they have access to var discussion) said the refs never even mentioned the head and were discussing “proximity”.

[Holden McGroin 7625]

5 hours ago, sammynb said:

Something still doesn't look right, the team isn't pressing the way they did last season. Many of you said Gordon had a great game, yes there was lots of tireless running and he did well to earn the pen but his final ball and a lot of the time he seems to be on his heels when he should be anticipating things. Though Barnes also had a touch of the Miggy's today with wanting to constantly come inside on his favoured foot.

Burn got caught out early but after the first 20 minutes he had their right wing under control. Bruno's was more like his old self and Longy made a huge difference. I think with Bruno and Longstaff on the pitch, we probably would have got more out of Miggy today than Gordon but who knows.

 

The thing for me about the overturned penalty is the referee has blown straight away and we had possession and yet he restarts it by giving an uncontested drop ball to their keeper - forgetting all the was it, should it, why the fuck does the team with possession lose the ball in that circumstance?

Three points is three points, so onwards, they just need to get this nervous shite out of their game, too many aimless or hit and hope balls being played atm.

 I agree with a lot of that. We aren’t pressing like we did last year and the patterns of play just aren’t there. Very disjointed but hopefully it was just nervousness.

 

Also agree about Gordon. Looked good in flashes but not sure he’ll ever have much end product and will be much like Almiron.

[Dougle 3683]

5 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

 

Lmao, an overhit cross from Barnes that missed all newcastle players in the box and fell to a Brentford player who played a poor backpass to his GK and then HC threw himself in front of it so we got a soft penalty.

That was creating a "chance" to you? get out

 

You're clutching desperately 

 

 

 

 

 

Please go to sleep you boring bastard

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

1 hour ago, Dougle said:

 

Please go to sleep you boring bastard

 

Thank you for accepting the advice LTA.

 

[thebrokendoll 10283]

7 hours ago, sammynb said:

Something still doesn't look right, the team isn't pressing the way they did last season. Many of you said Gordon had a great game, yes there was lots of tireless running and he did well to earn the pen but his final ball and a lot of the time he seems to be on his heels when he should be anticipating things. Though Barnes also had a touch of the Miggy's today with wanting to constantly come inside on his favoured foot.

Burn got caught out early but after the first 20 minutes he had their right wing under control. Bruno's was more like his old self and Longy made a huge difference. I think with Bruno and Longstaff on the pitch, we probably would have got more out of Miggy today than Gordon but who knows.

 

The thing for me about the overturned penalty is the referee has blown straight away and we had possession and yet he restarts it by giving an uncontested drop ball to their keeper - forgetting all the was it, should it, why the fuck does the team with possession lose the ball in that circumstance?

Three points is three points, so onwards, they just need to get this nervous shite out of their game, too many aimless or hit and hope balls being played atm.

 

not read through the thread so I'm sure it's probably already been said, but I think yesterday was one of those games where the 3 points was infinitely more important than the performance. had the feeling of the wolves game at home last season where we had to stop the rot and did..... just.

was strangely subdued in the car on the way back last night with not much analysis, but then what was there was to talk about really? was a poor game and a definite penalty.

man of the match was the corner of the gallowgate who never stopped trying to lift the team, hat doffed. I was in there yesterday for the first time since I jacked me season ticket in and only a few yards away from me old seat so saw one or two old faces again which was nice.   

[Kid Dynamite 7638]

2 hours ago, Holden McGroin said:

 Also agree about Gordon. Looked good in flashes but not sure he’ll ever have much end product and will be much like Almiron.

He's 22, just won player of the tournament in the u21s and won us the penalty that won the game yesterday. Give him a break man  

[Holden McGroin 7625]

2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He's 22, just won player of the tournament in the u21s and won us the penalty that won the game yesterday. Give him a break man  

I’ve never slagged a player off at match (I think the most I’ve ever done was sigh at Warren Barton - who was absolute shite) but I’m allowed an opinion. 
 

Obviously he does have a lot of room for improvement and if he can work on his end product then we’ll have a player on our hands. But he doesn’t look natural finisher like Barnes does.
 

Seems like a decent lad as well.

[Alex 36727]

9 hours ago, Howay said:

 So from the sounds of his post the PL is far better to watch than the less skillful less talented version. There’s also not a single chance the game is faster at that level and anyone that says it is simply doesn’t understand the game . 

Or the meaning of complicated words like ‘faster’ 

[wykikitoon 22904]

So if they ever get back in the prem he won't be impressed? 

[Renton 23685]

3 hours ago, Holden McGroin said:

 I agree with a lot of that. We aren’t pressing like we did last year and the patterns of play just aren’t there. Very disjointed but hopefully it was just nervousness.

 

Also agree about Gordon. Looked good in flashes but not sure he’ll ever have much end product and will be much like Almiron.

I think people are underestimating Joelintons contribution last year. He was responsible for about 50% of the press and was seemingly tireless. For me there isn’t a more important player, a fit Joelinton is first on the team sheet and works in synergy with Bruno and Longstaff.

[sammynb 3923]

42 minutes ago, Renton said:

I think people are underestimating Joelintons contribution last year. He was responsible for about 50% of the press and was seemingly tireless. For me there isn’t a more important player, a fit Joelinton is first on the team sheet and works in synergy with Bruno and Longstaff.

 

And Wilock, Joe and Joe's understanding of each other is a thing of footballing beauty.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

13 hours ago, Howay said:

This is why I say it was a pen btw. As last season we were told by the whole media that Burn had his arm in an unnatural position as it was high, it blocked a chance etc. now I’m hearing similar voices in the press saying it would have been harsh. Either stick to the rule or fix the rule, increasingly growing bored of the inconsistency and poor standards. 

Burn’s shouldn’t have been a pen either if you ask me. The problem is the lack of consistency and the fact that no body, including the refs, seems to know what the bloody handball rule means anymore. I’d like it if they went back to it being about intent. For me, it’s hand ball if someone deliberately uses the arm to gain an advantage. But they prefer to change the rule every season and the refs seem as baffled as the rest of us.

 

The ref had an absolute howler yesterday. I agree with aimaad, I think it was, who said that our pen was very soft. Definitely one that Gordon “won”.  I’d have been seething if that had gone against us too. Clumsy of their keeper to come rushing out like that but I don’t think he tries to take him out Gordon is going nowhere and knows exactly what he’s doing to draw the foul.

 

Wilson’s goal 100% should have stood. That one was just bizarre. And one of their defenders, can’t remember who, should have been given a second yellow card. 

[wykikitoon 22904]

Lack of consistency has been a thing for decades. The only consistent thing is the Top 6 getting the decisions 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 hour ago, sammynb said:

 

And Wilock, Joe and Joe's understanding of each other is a thing of footballing beauty.

Agreed. Our best performances the past year or so have come with Willock LCM and big Joe out wide on the left. I think we should revert to that when everyone is fit and firing. 

 

Longstaff’s contribution yesterday can’t be underestimated but I think he’s the one who probably misses out if Tonali and Bruno can work out how to play together.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Lack of consistency has been a thing for decades. The only consistent thing is the Top 6 getting the decisions 

aye, we’re comparing two decisions (Burn last season and Brentford yesterday), which both went against us. No way are those decisions going against Liverpool or Man U

[sammynb 3923]

Anyone see the penalty/VAR review for Villa against Palace? Fucking criminal it stood, defender got the ball and Villa forward tripped over the defender, there was no going through the attacker, brilliant bit of defending. Ref gives a penalty, VAR calls him over to review the decision, ref goes fuck that, have at it Villa, whole game turns on the wrong decision that VAR got correct.

Whole thing is a shambles.

[wykikitoon 22904]

16 minutes ago, sammynb said:

Anyone see the penalty/VAR review for Villa against Palace? Fucking criminal it stood, defender got the ball and Villa forward tripped over the defender, there was no going through the attacker, brilliant bit of defending. Ref gives a penalty, VAR calls him over to review the decision, ref goes fuck that, have at it Villa, whole game turns on the wrong decision that VAR got correct.

Whole thing is a shambles.

Apparently the decision took ages and merson was shouting it was nailed on. 

[wykikitoon 22904]

https://x.com/SpewingMagpie/status/1703311119241138497?s=20

 

 

[aimaad22 4690]

Longstaff will have given Eddie a real headache for when Tonali and Willock are back. Both technically better footballers yet the work Longy does, breaking up play, his positional sense and how his game complements Bruno, those are big factors in how much better we look when he plays. 

 

I still think Joe is at his best on the left with Willock in the center. Where does that leave Barnes? And does Gordon stay on the right, I think we saw enough of him there yesterday to say that can work. 

[Dougle 3683]

7 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

 

Im allowed an opinion, sorry the facts dont fit whatever delusion you've got going on in you're head, why don't you run off and go cry to Andrew again, little bitch. 

 

 

 

Enlighten me oh strange one?

[Howay 12496]

https://x.com/jordancronin_/status/1703176686764749299?s=46&t=ytLiTTx5wmuNZJztyLjiJg
 

This bloke is a right cunt like . His team time wasted like fuck every goal kick and throw in, I understood it was part of their set up and wasn’t complaining but don’t then complain when you feel the game isn’t fast enough when you go behind. 
 

Far too many managers like this now imo, Klopp, Ten Hag, Frank, etc that will blame everything and everyone when things don’t go their way. You come up against a better side, set up for a draw and lost. 

[Monkeys Fist 45158]

3 minutes ago, Howay said:

https://x.com/jordancronin_/status/1703176686764749299?s=46&t=ytLiTTx5wmuNZJztyLjiJg
 

This bloke is a right cunt like . His team time wasted like fuck every goal kick and throw in, I understood it was part of their set up and wasn’t complaining but don’t then complain when you feel the game isn’t fast enough when you go behind. 
 

Far too many managers like this now imo, Klopp, Ten Hag, Frank, etc that will blame everything and everyone when things don’t go their way. You come up against a better side, set up for a draw and lost. 

It’s mint tbh. 
The more whining fuckers like these the better, as it means we’re getting under their thin skin.