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Phillips is the lesser of the midfield evils that Southgate's selection policy plauges us with out of the Henderson, Gallagher and Phillips trio. Only injury can save us from Henderson going to Euros.

 

For any other country going to this Euro's a midfield of Rice, Bellingham and Foden picks itself. Most progressive attack minded midfield we'll be lucky is if Trent plays holding mid alongside Rice, and Foden from a wing. 

 

Happen to think England wise, it's a perfect balance of two evils. Steve Holland being the tactical guy responsible for the handbrake being kept on, and Southgate being the FA middle-manager/PR guy that is responsible for team unity and positivity. Basically Southgate will always pick likes of Henderson because of 'muh leadership' and Holland won't see anything wrong with playing him over say a Foden or Maddison centrally.

 

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9 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Foden, Rice and Bellingham are miles ahead of any other English CMs this season. 
 

Fully expect to see Henderson, Gallagher and Phillips start the first game in Euro24

Bellingham is a nailed-on starter if he’s fit. Surely even for Southgate. He’s fucking dying to play Phillips as one of two holding midfielders for his ‘defensive stability’ though. I actually dread to think how bad Phillips’ form would need to be for him to not make the squad at least. Also, I don’t mind the idea of Foden playing wide in a front 3. As he’d naturally take up central positions and get involved more anyway. So long as it’s a midfield 3 of something like Rice, TAA and Bellingham. It won’t be though. It’ll be a 4-2-3-1. With two DMs doing the same job and Bellingham in the middle of that 3. Saka will start on the right of the 3 and it’ll be Foden on the left, if he’s lucky. 

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9 minutes ago, Alex said:

Bellingham is a nailed-on starter if he’s fit. Surely even for Southgate. He’s fucking dying to play Phillips as one of two holding midfielders for his ‘defensive stability’ though. I actually dread to think how bad Phillips’ form would need to be for him to not make the squad at least. Also, I don’t mind the idea of Foden playing wide in a front 3. As he’d naturally take up central positions and get involved more anyway. So long as it’s a midfield 3 of something like Rice, TAA and Bellingham. It won’t be though. It’ll be a 4-2-3-1. With two DMs doing the same job and Bellingham in the middle of that 3. Saka will start on the right of the 3 and it’ll be Foden on the left, if he’s lucky. 


Agreed but this is Southgate. We talk about Howe having his favourites but this bloke takes it to a different level.


Phillips, who is still dining out on his performances in the euros three years ago, will start alongside Rice.

 

Henderson, who should do the honourable thing and retire from international football, will run him close.  

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

Bellingham is a nailed-on starter if he’s fit. Surely even for Southgate. He’s fucking dying to play Phillips as one of two holding midfielders for his ‘defensive stability’ though. I actually dread to think how bad Phillips’ form would need to be for him to not make the squad at least. Also, I don’t mind the idea of Foden playing wide in a front 3. As he’d naturally take up central positions and get involved more anyway. So long as it’s a midfield 3 of something like Rice, TAA and Bellingham. It won’t be though. It’ll be a 4-2-3-1. With two DMs doing the same job and Bellingham in the middle of that 3. Saka will start on the right of the 3 and it’ll be Foden on the left, if he’s lucky. 

Rice too. It's the one that remains that will be one of Phillips/Hernderson/Gallagher. Rice is his wet dream midfielder - Sits back, breaks up play well and keeps the game boring.

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8 hours ago, Nefilim said:

Phillips is the lesser of the midfield evils that Southgate's selection policy plauges us with out of the Henderson, Gallagher and Phillips trio. Only injury can save us from Henderson going to Euros.

 

For any other country going to this Euro's a midfield of Rice, Bellingham and Foden picks itself. Most progressive attack minded midfield we'll be lucky is if Trent plays holding mid alongside Rice, and Foden from a wing. 

 

Happen to think England wise, it's a perfect balance of two evils. Steve Holland being the tactical guy responsible for the handbrake being kept on, and Southgate being the FA middle-manager/PR guy that is responsible for team unity and positivity. Basically Southgate will always pick likes of Henderson because of 'muh leadership' and Holland won't see anything wrong with playing him over say a Foden or Maddison centrally.

 

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None of Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Maddison, Grealish, Saka, Kane - all our best midfield/attacking players actually play that 4231 for their clubs. Just seems awkard for them all. In last few games I watched England (Australia, Macedonia, Malta) it was scary just how many players it takes England to move the ball into midfield, and get behind an opponents midfield line to actually attack them.

 

Was frightening against Australia - the game everyone booed off Henderson - Including GK, it was 8 players either going backwards or sideways. He played Colwill as a BurnLB, with Trent AA coming inside who just got in the way of Henderson... Gallagher did fuck all but go backwards, and Grealish just came inside and back because Colwill couldn't overlap and had no fucker to pass forward too.

 

Rice is more than capable of playing that single pivot as a DM, he does it well enough for Arsenal. It's going to be more natural for all these guys to play in that 433 shape rather than involving someone like Gallagher/Phillips.   

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28 minutes ago, Tom said:

I think Eddie has broken Villa


It looks like they are fatigued as well. They’ve never hit any high energy levels since beating Arsenal and Man City. 
 

They’ve got Man Utd at weekend as well.  I’m not sure I fancy Villa in that at the mo.

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27 minutes ago, Tom said:

I think Eddie has broken Villa

 

Martin Tyler is doing the comms on the feed we are getting here - fuck me, he needs to retire. Talking about how good Villa have been at home and how Chelsea are doing something special, hey you silly auld cunt, Eddie's ragtag band of merry men broke a hole in that dam two weeks ago. But no the new Chelsea are here - fuck off.

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2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

They’ve got Man Utd at weekend as well.  I’m not sure I fancy Villa in that at the mo.

 

Ten Fraud will send his lot out to keep it tight, Villa will either nick it with an Onana own goal from Ollie Watkin's arse or it will be the bore draw it deserves to be.

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5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

That's some goal by Chelsea. Fuck me. 

Aye, had it on mute playing a game on my phone, looked up and thought “he’s not scoring from there” and got back to my game. Shows what I know. :lol:

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4 minutes ago, Tom said:

Are Man City’s crowd on tramadol? You wouldnt even think there’s a match on 

 

To be fair, early kick offs are horrendous but they're like this regularly for run of the mill games whatever the time.

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