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[Howmanheyman 33969]

Commentators joyous voice when man u win it...

[Meenzer 15742]

 

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

What is this fucking dog shit DJ on btw

 

"Country roads, take me home" presumably a reference to the Home Counties destinations of most of the departing ManU fans

[RobElliott 1590]

City will rip these knackers a new one in the final and all will be well

[wykikitoon 20924]

Fernandes what a cunt too. Someone do his Acl ffs

[Meenzer 15742]

Mood

 

[RobElliott 1590]

No Coventry interviews then

[Gemmill 46208]

I still absolutely love how brittle this Man United team is though. And how brittle their arrogant manager will be when he's questioned by Man United journalists in the press conference later. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14094]

Coventry absolutely robbed because Man Utd have sold their soul to the VAR devil. If we don’t demolish them in a few weeks, I’ll be livid. Coventry outplayed them for the entire second half and they still got away with it 

[wykikitoon 20924]

They're fucking dog shit at the back but it's nailed on Maguire starts for England. Hes a fucking sloth man. The block heed cunt. 

[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

1 hour ago, Meenzer said:

Mood

 

looks like Nick Pope has taken up crack whilst he’s been out injured. (Back left)

[Dr Gloom 22203]

Disgusting VAR decision to deny a famous victory 

[Renton 22059]

👇 Correct.

 

 

 

Edited April 21 by Renton

[LondonBlue 815]

1 hour ago, Renton said:

👇 Correct.

 

 

 

i reckon var should only call offside if you about a yard offside. otherwise it should be down to the linesman. there will still be the odd daft one. but no rulers.

hopefully the semi automated var makes it a shit load better,

[Andrew 4882]

The thing with the offside rule, is that no variation of it actually changes anything that we all hate about the offside rule.

in line - ok so a millimeter out of line and you're offside
daylight - ok so a millimeter of daylight and you're offside

a yard off - ok so one yard and one millimeter and you're offside

Everyones variation is just moving the margin because there has to be some point where you're off vs not off.

VARs shifted the debate to shit about the lines and whatnot but we still spent 50% of every match of the day or whatever moaning about marginal offsides before VAR, nothings actually changed.

The number of cameras at the top level of the game now ensures that we are trapped in this endless debate forever.

[OTF 7583]

1 hour ago, Andrew said:

The thing with the offside rule, is that no variation of it actually changes anything that we all hate about the offside rule.

in line - ok so a millimeter out of line and you're offside
daylight - ok so a millimeter of daylight and you're offside

a yard off - ok so one yard and one millimeter and you're offside

Everyones variation is just moving the margin because there has to be some point where you're off vs not off.

VARs shifted the debate to shit about the lines and whatnot but we still spent 50% of every match of the day or whatever moaning about marginal offsides before VAR, nothings actually changed.

The number of cameras at the top level of the game now ensures that we are trapped in this endless debate forever.

 

I don't think anyone will complain with any justification if there is a clear advantage to the attacking player being ahead of defenders. I'm sure they will still complain but there will be no validity to it. There should be an allowable margin of error considering that they also need to identify the moment the ball was released to determine when to draw the line. That's my biggest contention. So for example if there is less than 150mm* between attacker and the second to last defender at the determined moment then allow the goal to stand. If it's 151mm and you're still complaining then you need a new hobby.

 

* - Or if you really want to be generous 300mm

Edited April 22 by OTF

[Andrew 4882]

7 minutes ago, OTF said:

 

I don't think anyone will complain with any justification if there is a clear advantage to the attacking player being ahead of defenders. I'm sure they will still complain but there will be no validity to it. There should be an allowable margin of error considering that they also need to identify the moment the ball was released to determine when to draw the line. That's my biggest contention. So for example if there is less than 150mm* between attacker and the second to last defender at the determined moment then allow the goal to stand. If it's 151mm and you're still complaining then you need a new hobby.

 

* - Or if you really want to be generous 300mm

 

I don't disagree but that is still all that is happening right now, unless the critical margin is kept secret from all but the VARs or the machine determining who is off and on then we'll keep having this conversation.

For it to stop its not about what the gap is, or when the line is considered the rule has to have a wholesale change.

[OTF 7583]

3 hours ago, Andrew said:

 

I don't disagree but that is still all that is happening right now, unless the critical margin is kept secret from all but the VARs or the machine determining who is off and on then we'll keep having this conversation.

For it to stop its not about what the gap is, or when the line is considered the rule has to have a wholesale change.

 

For sure people will still complain but now the complaint is that they're not offside because their toenail was in front of the second to last defender. This would take that understandable complaint out of the reckoning. It would br their whole boot that would be infront. Where it can still be confusing is when they consider the shoulder and head. Make the rule relate to feet as this is how players move... if your head and/or shoulder is in front of the defender but your feet are behind theirs (or in the allowable zone) then that's fine. 

[Gemmill 46208]

The rule should be that if the goal is clearly fucking hilarious, then VAR isn't allowed to intervene. Use yesterday's goal as the test case. 

[Toonpack 10059]

If they’ve got to draw lines, forget it, that’s onside IMO. It’s about entertainment/goals at the end of the day.

[Alex 35667]

Use the AI like the CL or bin it tbh. It’s genuinely ruining football in general as well. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4001]

If VAR didn’t exist the lino would have flagged because it was Man U

[Dazzler 10460]

2 hours ago, Toonpack said:

If they’ve got to draw lines, forget it, that’s onside IMO. It’s about entertainment/goals at the end of the day.

Bingo, if you need a computer to prove it’s offside then it’s fucking onside IMO.

 

I personally think clear daylight between players is a fair measure, however even that is open to interpretation, because it could be a leg or the torso or a head in front creating daylight between the players and some don’t even give an advantage really.

[The Fish 10978]

Offside law is to prevent an unfair advantage. 

 

When you're getting into millimetres it's not really a strong case that the attacker had an unfair advantage. Daylight is an unfair advantage and not from the torso, the shoulder or the knees. It should be trailing foot Vs leading foot. 

[Dr Gloom 22203]

3 hours ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

If VAR didn’t exist the lino would have flagged because it was Man U

 

[Gemmill 46208]

3 hours ago, Dazzler said:

Bingo, if you need a computer to prove it’s offside then it’s fucking onside IMO.

 

I personally think clear daylight between players is a fair measure, however even that is open to interpretation, because it could be a leg or the torso or a head in front creating daylight between the players and some don’t even give an advantage really.

 

Problem then is the argument just shifts to whether the bloke really needed to draw the lines or whether it was obvious with the naked eye. 

 

I think you could see that that bloke yesterday was offside before the line was even drawn. But then maybe that's just an argument for making me the universal VAR overlord.