aimaad22 4156 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Wait surely that wasn't offside? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9801 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Maybe Bayern should have signed Joselu instead of Kane to keep winning trophies. Neuer lost them the game but Kane should have made it 2-0 earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: Wait surely that wasn't offside? Ref/linesman fucked that up. Was a very tight offside call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Ref/linesman fucked that up. Was a very tight offside call Sure looks like it. Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9801 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Just now, aimaad22 said: Sure looks like it. Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. Can’t see Real being as stupid as PSG. They needed Neuer to make a mistake but he already made a couple of very good saves earlier to keep Bayern in the game. Real were clearly the better team today and deserved to go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 19 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Can’t see Real being as stupid as PSG. They needed Neuer to make a mistake but he already made a couple of very good saves earlier to keep Bayern in the game. Real were clearly the better team today and deserved to go through. PSG were the better team against us, but they didn't deserve a dodgy penalty any more than Real deserved a dodgy offside call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35103 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 8 hours ago, aimaad22 said: Sure looks like it. Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. Fingers crossed. I distinctly remember the game the last time Dortmund won it. Juve had a team of superstars and Dortmund were given little chance then too. In the end they thoroughly deserved their win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3900 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: PSG were the better team against us, but they didn't deserve a dodgy penalty any more than Real deserved a dodgy offside call The ref had blown the whistle as soon as the flag went up, if there was no flag it doesn’t mean the German Man Utd would have scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44971 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 He was offside, wasn't he? Ludicrous that the linesman put his flag up but it's a load of controversy over nothing if the bloke was offside. I switched it off as soon as it finished, so if he was proven to actually be onside, I've missed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9248 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 10 hours ago, Tom said: absolutely tremendous work by those lads that was, sets the standards that all football youtubers etc should be striving for. adam pearson..... eat your heart out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gemmill said: He was offside, wasn't he? Ludicrous that the linesman put his flag up but it's a load of controversy over nothing if the bloke was offside. I switched it off as soon as it finished, so if he was proven to actually be onside, I've missed it. The Bayern player who touched the ball (Muller?) looked level. The offside player wasn't interfering with play so the game should have been played on and checked by VAR Edited May 9 by Kid Dynamite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7034 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 The ball is also half way off the players foot in that frame. If they knock it back a frame I think he's definitely onside. The technology they use for offsides is ridiculously analogue. Pixelated pictures, hand drawn lines, picking and choosing which frame to go off. Automate it and let the computer decide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44971 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 I think the frame thing will persist even with computers. There was an incident recently where they put the VAR audio up and the bloke on VAR was saying right, frame 1 or 2, and there was a canny difference between them both. But the camera only takes so many frames per seconds. You could ask the computer to take the two frames and attempt to interpolate the exact point at which foot hit ball, but then what do you do with the attacker/defender? You can't really do the same with both of them cos there isn't an object (foot) moving towards another object (ball). You've got different limbs moving in different directions and stuff. You need to take the frozen picture linked to the frame selected. Anyway, a very long winded way of saying that the camera frame thing is unavoidable, in which I got to impress you all by using the word interpolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3900 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I think the frame thing will persist even with computers. There was an incident recently where they put the VAR audio up and the bloke on VAR was saying right, frame 1 or 2, and there was a canny difference between them both. But the camera only takes so many frames per seconds. You could ask the computer to take the two frames and attempt to interpolate the exact point at which foot hit ball, but then what do you do with the attacker/defender? You can't really do the same with both of them cos there isn't an object (foot) moving towards another object (ball). You've got different limbs moving in different directions and stuff. You need to take the frozen picture linked to the frame selected. Anyway, a very long winded way of saying that the camera frame thing is unavoidable, in which I got to impress you all by using the word interpolate. Software should be able to compute the speed of the player, the speed of the leg making the pass and be able to plot where the body would be between frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44971 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: Software should be able to compute the speed of the player, the speed of the leg making the pass and be able to plot where the body would be between frames. I said that in my post about foot to ball. It can't predict player movement though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30647 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3900 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 27 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I said that in my post about foot to ball. It can't predict player movement though. It doesn’t have to predict it has to measure what has happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44971 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 No it doesn't. There are multiple points on the body that can be offside. It has to interpolate a position for ALL of them across multiple players, and then determine which is furthest forward at the point of contact. Which is why it's not fucking happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 17 minutes ago, ewerk said: Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple. Offside only when the player's full body is in front of the defender? Like the ball crossing over the line rule? Should be easier to automate too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9455 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 48 minutes ago, ewerk said: Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple. This ☝️ They have umpires call in cricket to account for the fact the technology isn't 100%, if it's so close you need to draw lines should be onside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 that's Villa out I reckon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego21 2137 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Football is a sport in which they play 11 against 11 and Real Madrid always ends up stealing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14012 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 23 minutes ago, Tdansmith said: that's Villa out I reckon Damaging the coefficient so that Spurs cant make the CL 🫡 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9801 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, Tom said: Damaging the coefficient so that Spurs cant make the CL 🫡 That’s already impossible isn’t it? Places are going to Germany and Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17286 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Roma 1 up at the Bayarena… Leverkusen should’ve been 3 nil up before Roma got the pen they scored from though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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