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[Tom 14113]

 

 

 

[aimaad22 4850]

Bayern have Chupo Moting on the pitch instead of Kane  

[aimaad22 4850]

Wait surely that wasn't offside?

[Isegrim 10631]

Maybe Bayern should have signed Joselu instead of Kane to keep winning trophies.

 

Neuer lost them the game but Kane should have made it 2-0 earlier.

[Kid Dynamite 7825]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:02, aimaad22 said:

Wait surely that wasn't offside?

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Ref/linesman fucked that up. Was a very tight offside call

[aimaad22 4850]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:07, Kid Dynamite said:

Ref/linesman fucked that up. Was a very tight offside call

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Sure looks like it.

 

Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. 

[Isegrim 10631]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:11, aimaad22 said:

 

Sure looks like it.

 

Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. 

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Can’t see Real being as stupid as PSG.

 

They needed Neuer to make a mistake but he already made a couple of very good saves earlier to keep Bayern in the game. Real were clearly the better team today and deserved to go through.

[Kid Dynamite 7825]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:14, Isegrim said:

Can’t see Real being as stupid as PSG.

 

They needed Neuer to make a mistake but he already made a couple of very good saves earlier to keep Bayern in the game. Real were clearly the better team today and deserved to go through.

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PSG were the better team against us, but they didn't deserve a dodgy penalty any more than Real deserved a dodgy offside call

[Alex 37304]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:11, aimaad22 said:

 

Sure looks like it.

 

Hope Dortmund can win it. But knowing their luck and Real's, they wont. 

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Fingers crossed. I distinctly remember the game the last time Dortmund won it. Juve had a team of superstars and Dortmund were given little chance then  too. In the end they thoroughly deserved their win. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4296]

  On 08/05/2024 at 21:34, Kid Dynamite said:

PSG were the better team against us, but they didn't deserve a dodgy penalty any more than Real deserved a dodgy offside call

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The ref had blown the whistle as soon as the flag went up, if there was no flag it doesn’t mean the German Man Utd would have scored.

[Gemmill 51250]

He was offside, wasn't he? Ludicrous that the linesman put his flag up but it's a load of controversy over nothing if the bloke was offside. 

 

I switched it off as soon as it finished, so if he was proven to actually be onside, I've missed it. 

[thebrokendoll 10569]

  On 08/05/2024 at 20:56, Tom said:

 

 

 

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absolutely tremendous work by those lads that was, sets the standards that all football youtubers etc should be striving for.

adam pearson..... eat your heart out.

[Kid Dynamite 7825]

  On 09/05/2024 at 06:58, Gemmill said:

He was offside, wasn't he? Ludicrous that the linesman put his flag up but it's a load of controversy over nothing if the bloke was offside. 

 

I switched it off as soon as it finished, so if he was proven to actually be onside, I've missed it. 

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The Bayern player who touched the ball (Muller?) looked level. The offside player wasn't interfering with play so the game should have been played on and checked by VAR

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 2024 by Kid Dynamite

[Kid Dynamite 7825]

The ball is also half way off the players foot in that frame. If they knock it back a frame I think he's definitely onside. The technology they use for offsides is ridiculously analogue. Pixelated pictures, hand drawn lines, picking and choosing which frame to go off.
 

Automate it and let the computer decide 

[Gemmill 51250]

I think the frame thing will persist even with computers. There was an incident recently where they put the VAR audio up and the bloke on VAR was saying right, frame 1 or 2, and there was a canny difference between them both. But the camera only takes so many frames per seconds. 

 

You could ask the computer to take the two frames and attempt to interpolate the exact point at which foot hit ball, but then what do you do with the attacker/defender? You can't really do the same with both of them cos there isn't an object (foot) moving towards another object (ball). You've got different limbs moving in different directions and stuff. You need to take the frozen picture linked to the frame selected. 

 

Anyway, a very long winded way of saying that the camera frame thing is unavoidable, in which I got to impress you all by using the word interpolate. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4296]

  On 09/05/2024 at 17:28, Gemmill said:

I think the frame thing will persist even with computers. There was an incident recently where they put the VAR audio up and the bloke on VAR was saying right, frame 1 or 2, and there was a canny difference between them both. But the camera only takes so many frames per seconds. 

 

You could ask the computer to take the two frames and attempt to interpolate the exact point at which foot hit ball, but then what do you do with the attacker/defender? You can't really do the same with both of them cos there isn't an object (foot) moving towards another object (ball). You've got different limbs moving in different directions and stuff. You need to take the frozen picture linked to the frame selected. 

 

Anyway, a very long winded way of saying that the camera frame thing is unavoidable, in which I got to impress you all by using the word interpolate. 

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Software should be able to compute the speed of the player, the speed of the leg making the pass and be able to plot where the body would be between frames.

[Gemmill 51250]

  On 09/05/2024 at 17:38, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

Software should be able to compute the speed of the player, the speed of the leg making the pass and be able to plot where the body would be between frames.

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I said that in my post about foot to ball. It can't predict player movement though. 

[ewerk 33655]

Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4296]

  On 09/05/2024 at 17:43, Gemmill said:

 

I said that in my post about foot to ball. It can't predict player movement though. 

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It doesn’t have to predict it has to measure what has happened 

[Gemmill 51250]

No it doesn't. There are multiple points on the body that can be offside. It has to interpolate a position for ALL of them across multiple players, and then determine which is furthest forward at the point of contact. 

 

Which is why it's not fucking happening. 

[aimaad22 4850]

  On 09/05/2024 at 18:03, ewerk said:

Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple.

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Offside only when the player's full body is in front of the defender? Like the ball crossing over the line rule? Should be easier to automate too.

[Toonpack 11814]

  On 09/05/2024 at 18:03, ewerk said:

Give the advantage to the attacker. It’s that simple.

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This ☝️

 

They have umpires call in cricket to account for the fact the technology isn't 100%, if it's so close you need to draw lines should be onside.

[Tdansmith 3260]

that's Villa out I reckon

[Diego21 2174]

Football is a sport in which they play 11 against 11 and Real Madrid always ends up stealing.

[Tom 14113]

  On 09/05/2024 at 19:12, Tdansmith said:

that's Villa out I reckon

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Damaging the coefficient so that Spurs cant make the CL 🫡