Lewis Miley - He’s one of our own (Stanley)

[Gemmill 45988]

1 hour ago, aimaad22 said:

Has cut out the occasional petulant moment as well which is great to see.

 

Temporary hiatus, I reckon. That stuff will be back when the time is right. 

[Dazzler 10357]

1 hour ago, aimaad22 said:

 

Seemed to be paying with a lot more flair and freedom than usual because we were comfortable at the back. Signs of what he could do in the final third if somebody else was playing his defensive role just as well. Has cut out the occasional petulant moment as well which is great to see.

He's been too paggered to get into paggers. As soon as he's back to one game a week he'll be back to getting his stupid yellows.

[spongebob toonpants 4123]

He plays on an emotional wave, wouldn't be the same player if he didn't.

 

I've accepted a stupid moment is always gonna be  bubbling just under the surface

[Kid Dynamite 7166]

3 hours ago, aimaad22 said:

 Signs of what he could do in the final third if somebody else was playing his defensive role just as well. 

I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield 

[Alex 35566]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield 

I think it might’ve been more about a move to a more possession based style of play going forward (and in Europe) with Tonali. Also, his availability - like you suggest. I do agree about a DM allowing Bruno to play further forward. But it’s like I’ve said before, ie as fans we’re more in the here and now. Whereas the club will have been thinking about Tonali being a part of the club’s midfield for the next 5+ years potentially 

Edited December 18, 2023 by Alex

[The Fish 10962]

14 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield 

 

Said it before, but I think Tonali was bought to recreate that link between forwards, fullbacks and other midfielders that we get from Bruno. Like Alex says, with two players who are press resistant and can make those line breaking passes, we can move to a more possession based system.

[aimaad22 4222]

I think we saw enough from to Tonali to say that he can be an outstanding box to box midfielder even though he seems a different sort of player to Bruno. I thought he's more physical and definitely faster. Dare I say a mix of Bruno and Willock? 

 

Not sure if Eddie had figured out how to play them together or what our best system is when everyone is fit but we now know how invaluable having the different options would have been in the run in across all competitions. 

[The Fish 10962]

3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

I think we saw enough from to Tonali to say that he can be an outstanding box to box midfielder even though he seems a different sort of player to Bruno. I thought he's more physical and definitely faster. Dare I say a mix of Bruno and Willock? 

 

Not sure if Eddie had figured out how to play them together or what our best system is when everyone is fit but we now know how invaluable having the different options would have been in the run in across all competitions. 

 

I honestly think the idea is that Tonali is Longstaff's replacement/improvement. They both have an aptitude for the defensive side, but both crop up in that pocket outside the box on the right hand side. They can both create from that position, can both drive with the ball or play it around. They're closer in style than Tonali is with Bruno or Joelinton or Willock. 

 

 

[Alex 35566]

21 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

I honestly think the idea is that Tonali is Longstaff's replacement/improvement. They both have an aptitude for the defensive side, but both crop up in that pocket outside the box on the right hand side. They can both create from that position, can both drive with the ball or play it around. They're closer in style than Tonali is with Bruno or Joelinton or Willock. 

 

 

Makes sense. He started ahead of Longstaff in the opening fixtures iirc. He wasn’t as effective but that’ll take time adjusting to the pace of the league etc 

[aimaad22 4222]

Aye. Interesting to see how the midfield evolves now that Miley has emerged as the Longstaff upgrade. 

 

Means we can concentrate on right wingers/strikers in the market maybe 

[Alex 35566]

I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. 

[spongebob toonpants 4123]

16 minutes ago, Alex said:

I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. 

Miley doesn't have Longstaff's ability to disrupt the opposition imo. 

He does remind me of Scholes a bit in his ability to get the ball move it and move. Seems to have a fantastic football brain though

[Gemmill 45988]

Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. 

[wykikitoon 20702]

6 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. 

That is a very good comparison tbf.  

[Holden McGroin 6779]

1 hour ago, Alex said:

I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. 

Yeah. Longstaff is still ahead of him in the pecking order for me. Miley needs to learn to play away from home as well. 
 

In terms of style he reminds me a bit of Jenas when he first got in the team (not the Jenas with no balls). 

[wykikitoon 20702]

Plus Longstaff almost has 10 years on Miley

[RobElliott 1563]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. 

 

Has anyone asked him to say the word pelanty? That's the only true measure against Waddle

[spongebob toonpants 4123]

4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Plus Longstaff almost has 10 years on Miley

Good god

[aimaad22 4222]

3 hours ago, Alex said:

I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. 

 

Yeah I agree. I was thinking long term. Fair point on the load on Miley at the moment. Good thing is these days you'd expect our coaching team to be aware of this and making sure he's recovering as soon as he can. 

[ewerk 31193]

17 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

 

Yeah I agree. I was thinking long term. Fair point on the load on Miley at the moment. Good thing is these days you'd expect our coaching team to be aware of this and making sure he's recovering as soon as he can. 

Aye, Howe has said that they’re making sure he goes down for his afternoon nap.

[Howmanheyman 33813]

2 hours ago, ewerk said:

Aye, Howe has said that they’re making sure he goes down for his afternoon nap.

 

I think after 30 minutes they get Dan Burn to lift him up and pat him on the back to get his wind up.

[Dazzler 10357]

16 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

I think after 30 minutes they get Dan Burn to lift him up and pat him on the back to get his wind up.

 

Burn will like that - it'll give him something to care for and keep him busy after Ryan Fraser died of cot death.

[Kid Dynamite 7166]

 

 

[Christmas Tree 4815]

Oh the old basin haircuts. Happy days  

[Alex 35566]

14 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: