Gemmill 42030 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, aimaad22 said: Has cut out the occasional petulant moment as well which is great to see. Temporary hiatus, I reckon. That stuff will be back when the time is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8157 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, aimaad22 said: Seemed to be paying with a lot more flair and freedom than usual because we were comfortable at the back. Signs of what he could do in the final third if somebody else was playing his defensive role just as well. Has cut out the occasional petulant moment as well which is great to see. He's been too paggered to get into paggers. As soon as he's back to one game a week he'll be back to getting his stupid yellows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3822 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 He plays on an emotional wave, wouldn't be the same player if he didn't. I've accepted a stupid moment is always gonna be bubbling just under the surface 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6795 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, aimaad22 said: Signs of what he could do in the final third if somebody else was playing his defensive role just as well. I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 33830 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said: I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield I think it might’ve been more about a move to a more possession based style of play going forward (and in Europe) with Tonali. Also, his availability - like you suggest. I do agree about a DM allowing Bruno to play further forward. But it’s like I’ve said before, ie as fans we’re more in the here and now. Whereas the club will have been thinking about Tonali being a part of the club’s midfield for the next 5+ years potentially Edited December 18, 2023 by Alex 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10335 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 14 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: I agree, which makes it puzzling that we spent £60mil on Tonali, who isn't a CDM. I assume it was a "too good to turn down" moment, but an Edson Alvarez or similar would have made more sense and added balance to our midfield Said it before, but I think Tonali was bought to recreate that link between forwards, fullbacks and other midfielders that we get from Bruno. Like Alex says, with two players who are press resistant and can make those line breaking passes, we can move to a more possession based system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3907 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think we saw enough from to Tonali to say that he can be an outstanding box to box midfielder even though he seems a different sort of player to Bruno. I thought he's more physical and definitely faster. Dare I say a mix of Bruno and Willock? Not sure if Eddie had figured out how to play them together or what our best system is when everyone is fit but we now know how invaluable having the different options would have been in the run in across all competitions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10335 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: I think we saw enough from to Tonali to say that he can be an outstanding box to box midfielder even though he seems a different sort of player to Bruno. I thought he's more physical and definitely faster. Dare I say a mix of Bruno and Willock? Not sure if Eddie had figured out how to play them together or what our best system is when everyone is fit but we now know how invaluable having the different options would have been in the run in across all competitions. I honestly think the idea is that Tonali is Longstaff's replacement/improvement. They both have an aptitude for the defensive side, but both crop up in that pocket outside the box on the right hand side. They can both create from that position, can both drive with the ball or play it around. They're closer in style than Tonali is with Bruno or Joelinton or Willock. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 33830 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 21 minutes ago, The Fish said: I honestly think the idea is that Tonali is Longstaff's replacement/improvement. They both have an aptitude for the defensive side, but both crop up in that pocket outside the box on the right hand side. They can both create from that position, can both drive with the ball or play it around. They're closer in style than Tonali is with Bruno or Joelinton or Willock. Makes sense. He started ahead of Longstaff in the opening fixtures iirc. He wasn’t as effective but that’ll take time adjusting to the pace of the league etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3907 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Aye. Interesting to see how the midfield evolves now that Miley has emerged as the Longstaff upgrade. Means we can concentrate on right wingers/strikers in the market maybe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 33830 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3822 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 16 minutes ago, Alex said: I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. Miley doesn't have Longstaff's ability to disrupt the opposition imo. He does remind me of Scholes a bit in his ability to get the ball move it and move. Seems to have a fantastic football brain though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42030 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19147 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. That is a very good comparison tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6128 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Alex said: I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. Yeah. Longstaff is still ahead of him in the pecking order for me. Miley needs to learn to play away from home as well. In terms of style he reminds me a bit of Jenas when he first got in the team (not the Jenas with no balls). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19147 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Plus Longstaff almost has 10 years on Miley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1391 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: Lineker was saying that he reminds him of Waddle in the way that he moves. Not the way he plays obviously but his gait and the way he has a slightly awkward running style. I can see what he means tbf. Has anyone asked him to say the word pelanty? That's the only true measure against Waddle 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3822 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Plus Longstaff almost has 10 years on Miley Good god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 3907 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Alex said: I think Longstaff’s contribution is still a bit underrated like. Miley’s style of play is easier on the eye but I don’t think he’s usurped Longstaff yet, if everyone is fully fit. The other thing is that, while it’s great Miley has seized his opportunity, I don’t think starting as many consecutive games as he has is ideal for his development either. By that I mean coming from never having played to playing 90 mins twice a week. Yeah I agree. I was thinking long term. Fair point on the load on Miley at the moment. Good thing is these days you'd expect our coaching team to be aware of this and making sure he's recovering as soon as he can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29211 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: Yeah I agree. I was thinking long term. Fair point on the load on Miley at the moment. Good thing is these days you'd expect our coaching team to be aware of this and making sure he's recovering as soon as he can. Aye, Howe has said that they’re making sure he goes down for his afternoon nap. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31168 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, ewerk said: Aye, Howe has said that they’re making sure he goes down for his afternoon nap. I think after 30 minutes they get Dan Burn to lift him up and pat him on the back to get his wind up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 8157 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 16 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: I think after 30 minutes they get Dan Burn to lift him up and pat him on the back to get his wind up. Burn will like that - it'll give him something to care for and keep him busy after Ryan Fraser died of cot death. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Christmas Tree 4375 Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 Oh the old basin haircuts. Happy days 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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