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30 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

With regards to the first XI being similar to last year, think it’s important to remember we have a fit Isak this time and Gordon is twice the player he was last season. Both of those make a massive difference IMO

Also we have greater depth at fullback. We're not relying on Manquillo, Krafth or Murphy at rightback if Trippier gets injured/suspended.

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You know when you need medical insurance, you have to declare any pre-existing conditions? And if something comes up which you had ticked no to, your insurance is invalid? Given the sums involved, I'm amazed this wasn't part of the paperwork? Surely there has be some come back from Milan on this. 

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1 hour ago, The Fish said:

 

To be honest I don't have any expectations of signings being an instant impact any more. Isak, Gordon, Bruno all took time to find their feet. Hall and Livramento are both clearly bought for the future, (Minteh and Kuol even further down the line). 

 

Barnes and Tonalie were, I think, intended to be slowly brought into the first team. Unfortunately because of injuries to particular players, they've been introduced ahead of schedule. 

That the Bruno who scored that back heel volley against Southampton on his full debut and the Isak who scored within minutes of his first game away to Liverpool?

 

I get what you're saying and I do think it applies to Tonali and Hall but not sure using those two examples works.

 

With regards to Tonali, from what I'm reading it's sounding more and more likely that the Juve player was that fucked with debt from gambling he was desperate for a way out and coming clean about it was that for him.  Before he grassed up Tonali there doesn't appear to have been any investigation into him.  So I think those who are suggesting Milan knew or that we can get some money back on him are in dreamland.  We're just going to have to put on our big boy pants and suck it up.  A loan move in January, particularly if we're still in Europe and challenging for the top four, seems a good bet.  But more immediately, it's fortunate Willock appears to be nearing a return and Anderson is starting to look more and more like he can compete for a starting position.  

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In what world do NUFC prise the future captain of AC Milan who grew up supporting the club from their clutches? And for 55 million when players in the same position went for nearly twice that in the same window? It was a very, very unlikely transfer whatever way you look at it :cuppa:

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The same world in which they prised one of the best striking talents in Europe from Real Sociedad for 60 million and one of the best midfielders in the world from Lyon for 30-odd million.

 

And the prevailing view at the time was that we had overpaid for Tonali, not got a 55 million quid bargain.

 

You've gone full QAnon here, ROBERT.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

That the Bruno who scored that back heel volley against Southampton on his full debut and the Isak who scored within minutes of his first game away to Liverpool?

 

I get what you're saying and I do think it applies to Tonali and Hall but not sure using those two examples works.

 

With regards to Tonali, from what I'm reading it's sounding more and more likely that the Juve player was that fucked with debt from gambling he was desperate for a way out and coming clean about it was that for him.  Before he grassed up Tonali there doesn't appear to have been any investigation into him.  So I think those who are suggesting Milan knew or that we can get some money back on him are in dreamland.  We're just going to have to put on our big boy pants and suck it up.  A loan move in January, particularly if we're still in Europe and challenging for the top four, seems a good bet.  But more immediately, it's fortunate Willock appears to be nearing a return and Anderson is starting to look more and more like he can compete for a starting position.  

Aye it is the same Bruno who went 5 games without starting, playing a sum total of 44 minutes in those games. Five minutes across his first 3 games. 

And Isak who didn't play at all until his debut against Liverpool and was only in for that game because Wilson was injured.

 

Those examples work fine, you dink.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

The same world in which they prised one of the best striking talents in Europe from Real Sociedad for 60 million and one of the best midfielders in the world from Lyon for 30-odd million.

 

And the prevailing view at the time was that we had overpaid for Tonali, not got a 55 million quid bargain.

 

You've gone full QAnon here, ROBERT.

 

 


I’ve not, I just think its all too much of a coincidence. And comparing Lyon and Real Sociedad as being on a level playing field with Milan is just silly. Sure they may have needed the money. Still doesn’t explain selling Tonali to a provincial English club who haven’t won a title in nearly 100 years. No amount of money brings a prince of the Italian game here at the age of 22 with his entire career in front  of him 🤷🏻‍♂️

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6 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Ooooh, listen to this. He's been down sarf so long he's gone all la di dah and forgotten his roots! 


Spent too much time in Italy this summer :D 

 

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1 hour ago, The Fish said:

Aye it is the same Bruno who went 5 games without starting, playing a sum total of 44 minutes in those games. Five minutes across his first 3 games. 

And Isak who didn't play at all until his debut against Liverpool and was only in for that game because Wilson was injured.

 

Those examples work fine, you dink.

 

 

We signed Isak about four days before we played Liverpool, he'd have struggled to get many minutes before that you daft sod.  He may have only been in because Wilson was injured but he scored in his first game a few days after signing and then scored again against Bournemouth before he got injured.  That's in no way taking time to find his feet.  Bruno didn't either, Howe just decided not to start him straight away while we were doing ok.  He never for one moment, in those short appearances before his full debut, looked like he was struggling at all.

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21 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

We signed Isak about four days before we played Liverpool, he'd have struggled to get many minutes before that you daft sod.  He may have only been in because Wilson was injured but he scored in his first game a few days after signing and then scored again against Bournemouth before he got injured.  That's in no way taking time to find his feet.  Bruno didn't either, Howe just decided not to start him straight away while we were doing ok.  He never for one moment, in those short appearances before his full debut, looked like he was struggling at all.

Didn’t he have one disallowed too?

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