Dazzler 11503 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, ewerk said: Unless Tonali comes out and says that Milan were aware. I know he won’t want to turn on his boyhood club but if the alternative is him being liable then he might have a change of heart. I can't see him doing that in all honesty unless he's facing a custodial sentence, which some rumours seem to suggest he could. However, it could be that he feels like Milan shafted him - sold him when he didn't want to leave, didn't get him the help he need etc - in which case he launches them under the bus. I'd take Tonali being banned for 12 months if we got our money back from Milan in the process. Canny little bosman transfer that 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23469 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 It's like selling a house and not declaring Gemmill is your next door neighbour. Dubious legally but absolutely wrong morally. Leaving aside the fact that Tonali and Milan have screwed us over, I never understood why lengthy football bans were a suitable answer, and how this is going to help his problem (same with Ivan Toney). Also I've no idea what type of due dilligence you need to undertake when signing a multi-million footballer. Hopefully it has some clause on addiction problems because its sucha common problem amongst footballers, and it will allow us to pursue legal action. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11503 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think it's most likely illegal, there will be something in contract law about it I would imagine. It's effectively saying "sold as seen" before you sell a brand new car that you know full well will explode 5 miles from the showroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1769 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Renton said: It's like selling a house and not declaring Gemmill is your next door neighbour. Dubious legally but absolutely wrong morally. Leaving aside the fact that Tonali and Milan have screwed us over, I never understood why lengthy football bans were a suitable answer, and how this is going to help his problem (same with Ivan Toney). Also I've no idea what type of due dilligence you need to undertake when signing a multi-million footballer. Hopefully it has some clause on addiction problems because its sucha common problem amongst footballers, and it will allow us to pursue legal action. I guess when you earn millions a year and you are prepared to risk losing money on a bet, fines regardless of size don't really work so the only way to punish them is to stop them from playing. And this is nowhere near as bad as being sold a house where Gemmill is your neighbour! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18823 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Renton said: It's like selling a house and not declaring Gemmill is your next door neighbour. Dubious legally but absolutely wrong morally. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11503 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, RobElliott said: I guess when you earn millions a year and you are prepared to risk losing money on a bet, fines regardless of size don't really work so the only way to punish them is to stop them from playing. And this is nowhere near as bad as being sold a house where Gemmill is your neighbour! Stopping them from playing seems counter productive to me. Giving them more free time for them to get further lost in their addictions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Dazzler said: I can't see him doing that in all honesty unless he's facing a custodial sentence, It won’t necessarily require a custodial sentence to put the squeeze on him. When Mutu was banned for drugs at Chelsea for seven months Chelsea were allowed to tear up his contract and sue him for the £15m transfer fee. If it’s a choice between dropping Milan in the shit or coughing up €70m personally I know which I’d prefer to do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11163 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Can't see how there'd be any custodial sentence, he's broken sporting law/regs, but don't see anything criminal in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7453 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dazzler said: Stopping them from playing seems counter productive to me. Giving them more free time for them to get further lost in their addictions. Fining in them when they've blown all their cash seems counter productive as well. What's the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Toonpack said: Can't see how there'd be any custodial sentence, he's broken sporting law/regs, but don't see anything criminal in it. Gambling laws are quite strict in Italy apparently. Still, I only think he’d get jail time if he tried influence the outcome of bets such as cards, goals, loses etc. From what I read his Milan related bets were only for them to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: Fining in them when they've blown all their cash seems counter productive as well. What's the answer? Make them live next door to Gemmill. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7453 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, ewerk said: Make them live next door to Gemmill. Lets not make any rash decisions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Also, unless he’s already addressed the gambling problem then surely the FA will be looking into whether he’s committed any offences while a Newcastle player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23389 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Club statement - Sandro Tonali Newcastle United can confirm that Sandro Tonali is subject to investigation by the Italian Prosecutor's Office and Italian Football Federation (FIGC) in relation to illegal betting activity. Sandro is fully engaging with the investigation and will continue to cooperate with all relevant authorities. He and his family will continue to receive the club's full support. Due to this ongoing process, Sandro and Newcastle United are unable to offer further comment at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49343 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I'm the perfect neighbour. I'm polite, I say hello if I see you, but other than that I stay the fuck out of your business, and I don't make any noise. Literally designed in a lab from the parts of other REALLY SEXY perfect neighbours. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11503 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I'm the perfect neighbour. I'm polite, I say hello if I see you, but other than that I stay the fuck out of your business, and I don't make any noise. Literally designed in a lab from the parts of other REALLY SEXY perfect neighbours. Howdy neighbour 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7453 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I'm the perfect neighbour. I'm polite, I say hello if I see you, but other than that I stay the fuck out of your business, and I don't make any noise. Literally designed in a lab from the parts of other REALLY SEXY perfect neighbours. Piss poor come back from you Gemmill. I was expecting something funny. Edited October 18, 2023 by Holden McGroin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11503 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: I have it on good authority this is you I fucking hate my inquisitive nature at times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49343 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: Piss poor come back from you Gemmill. I was expecting something funny. I can well understand why you would expect something funny, but even Andy Murray would struggle to return a SHIT SARNIE over the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11163 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4588 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 What a mess. I have the feeling because of the $ outlay and his age and potential, the club might stick with him through the ban. Considering he's definitely screwed us over there is the temptation to bin him and sue for whatever legal recourse possible? Real shame like. Not cool Sandro, not cool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18823 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2958 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: I'm the perfect neighbour. I'm polite, I say hello if I see you, but other than that I stay the fuck out of your business, and I don't make any noise. Literally designed in a lab from the parts of other REALLY SEXY perfect neighbours with embarrassingly small penises. You might say that's he's as quiet as a (Chinese) mouse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23389 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: funny twitter handle for the official club account 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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