Sandro Tonali

[Alex 37321]

I suppose knowing Milan knew and proving Milan knew are two different things re: any compensation 

[PaddockLad 19355]

21 minutes ago, Diego21 said:

According to what I have read in some Italian media, if Milan knew about the story and has not communicated anything to Newcastle, Milan would also be sanctioned (I don't know what type of sanction) because it would be considered fraud.

[Howay 12496]

Tonali to Fagioli

[Dazzler 12208]

17 minutes ago, Howay said:

Tonali to Fagioli

[ewerk 33655]

53 minutes ago, Howay said:

Tonali to Fagioli

Fagioli in court.

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 7827]

 

 

[Howmanheyman 37184]

4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

 

 

 

"How's the untouchables, did you say?"

[Monkeys Fist 45838]

7 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

 

 

 

“ mission accomplished “

[Polarboy 2317]

Italian football media know fuck all, Italian media say Tonali is likely in the clear 

 

[Howmanheyman 37184]

26 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Italian football media know fuck all, Italian media say Tonali is likely in the clear 

 

 

"Enough with the negativity, already, eh?"

[Andrew 5325]

41 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

Italian football media know fuck all, Italian media say Tonali is likely in the clear 

 

 

They're worse than the UK media for random speculation.

Look at all the shit that was said about Botman and Tonalis transfers to us, they'll say absolutely anything.

[Gemmill 51279]

Just now, Andrew said:

 

They're worse than the UK media for random speculation.

Look at all the shit that was said about Botman and Tonalis transfers to us, they'll say absolutely anything.

[Polarboy 2317]

1 minute ago, Andrew said:

 

They're worse than the UK media for random speculation.

Look at all the shit that was said about Botman and Tonalis transfers to us, they'll say absolutely anything.

 

Yeah probably, but I was more commenting on my own willingness to give into my bias when the story is positive for Tonali. 

[RobElliott 1878]

Wonder if this is all about Tonali hitting the jackpot on the slot machine in Wetherspoons?

[OTF 8572]

4 hours ago, Diego21 said:

According to what I have read in some Italian media, if Milan knew about the story and has not communicated anything to Newcastle, Milan would also be sanctioned (I don't know what type of sanction) because it would be considered fraud.

 

This will work in our favour in terms of the punishment Tonali gets in Italy IMO.

 

Meanwhile in the Premier League 9 clubs have betting companies as shirt sponsors... 🤔 

[toonotl 3474]

What's the likelihood that the FA would uphold a ban by the Italian FA around a law that only applies for one of the countries? (Assuming that Tonali has merely been betting on cards on some online casino or whatever.)

 

It would seem to me that it goes against the relationship between a nation's law and justice to punish a person for something in the UK because they've broken a law in another country when that law not only doesn't exist in the UK but the act is perfectly permissible in the UK. Does that make sense? I'm an idiot and not a lawyer so I'm undoubtedly looking at this with my moron glasses on, but I would imagine there must be some stipulation in the bilateral agreement between national FAs that punishments are only meted out across borders on matters of law that are agreed upon across borders.

 

Imagine an extreme situation, for instance, where a player is banned in [made up country] for [perfectly moral and legal act in the UK which we can all imagine]. It would be completely ridiculous to then uphold the ban in the UK for [perfectly moral and legal act in the UK] just because it's illegal in [made up country]. Is this not analogous -- at least in a small way -- to such a scenario (at least in terms of the law and how it's supposed to work)?

 

To put it simply: a person can't be punished unless they've broken the law. And according to the FA, Tonali has not broken a law. He played cards on the internet. (Or maybe not. Maybe he whacked a guy and chucked him in the river. Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!)

Edited October 16, 2023 by toonotl

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

 

Spalleti:

 

“It was traumatic for the team because we had the authorities almost in the dressing room and so everyone was surprised and upset.”

 

“We had almost a whole day when we said goodbye to them and we were able to give them a hug before they went home.”

 

“The players themselves were absolutely distraught because when you’re part of a national team everyone is very tight and after the results you can get it’s the one thing you can keep for life, the lasting relationships.”

 

“Gambling is a form of temptation. It’s a vice and these things happen and we are committed to speaking to these players.”

 

“We will continue to keep an eye on them and we’ll try to provide them with all the help and support that we can to make sure they can go back to do what they enjoy the most.”

 

[ewerk 33655]

10 hours ago, toonotl said:

What's the likelihood that the FA would uphold a ban by the Italian FA around a law that only applies for one of the countries? (Assuming that Tonali has merely been betting on cards on some online casino or whatever.)

Assuming that this is simply a case of him betting on an online casino app then it’s criminal case against him rather than anything football related so I wouldn’t expect the Italian FA to be getting involved at all.

Edited October 17, 2023 by ewerk

[Holden McGroin 7772]

4 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

Fagioli at the FIGC Prosecutor's Office: 'Tonali made me download the betting app'

 

https://www.calcioefinanza.it/2023/10/16/fagioli-app-scommesse-tonali/

 

 

 

Little snitch

 

[The Fish 11349]

[Dazzler 12208]

Fagioli has already spent the proceeds of his blue giro.

[Alex 37321]

If Tonali had told him to jump off the Tyne Bridge would he have done it? [/Me Grandma 

[Sonatine 12094]

[Howmanheyman 37184]

12 hours ago, RobElliott said:

Wonder if this is all about Tonali hitting the jackpot on the slot machine in Wetherspoons?

 

 

"Ya knaa me, ahm nee grass, you keep your cards close to ya chest and say fuck ahll. But. When it's an international break and stories are slow, when you can get away with a quick made up retro piece from Kevin Scott then get down to the monkey bar to have a few moretti's you'd think everything would be cush. Wrong. Ahve had a few and am feeding the fucking bandit but the bandit isn't playing back, fifty fucking bar ah dropped when ah was virtually doon to BFH, bus fare home, so sat down to finish me pint before fucking off home. Then what happens is Sandro Fucking Tonali walks in with his olive oil voice and Guinea charm and puts a quid in the bandit and it drops the lot back to him including me fifty fucking spondoolies. NUFC hero or not ah was onto the Italian FA quick as a flash. Fuck him! Made iz feel a bit better afterwards, lol! Laters. Ryder and Tonali's out."

 

 

[Monkeys Fist 45838]

BFH