Sandro Tonali

[wykikitoon 22851]

Klopp been grassing up. 

 

Stick to eating it you horse heed cunt

[ewerk 33214]

2 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

It's confirmed Tonali has been sent home from the Italy camp. If it's a criminal investigation that suggests it's spot fixing or similar as opposed to just general betting. The fucking tit

It might explain why Milan were so willing to get rid.

[Andrew 5150]

30 minutes ago, ewerk said:

It might explain why Milan were so willing to get rid.

Were they though? Hes the second most expensive sale in their history.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14671]

Could be a massive storm in a teacup tbf, we’ll just have to see how it pans out. Paqueta is still turning out every week after all that shite came out in the summer

[wykikitoon 22851]

1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Could be a massive storm in a teacup tbf, we’ll just have to see how it pans out. Paqueta is still turning out every week after all that shite came out in the summer

How long did it take to sort Toney out?  Now look at his value!

[OTF 8412]

Allegedly the media have the wrong end of the stick here; Zaniolo and Tonali have been sent home in disgrace for not being involved in match fixing.

[trophyshy 7329]

Ffs

 

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

 

 

[Rayvin 5922]

Grim thought but what would happen if it turns out to be true? You'd think anything over a year would be a contract cancellation but that leaves us massively out of pocket.

[RobElliott 1803]

For Paqueta the bets seem to be coming from Brazil themselves on him getting yellow cards in specific matches, using west Hams betting partner, betway... so for Paqueta it doesnt look like he was placing the bets himself but looks shady as the bets were coming from his hometown. Plus it being in Brazil its likely going to be harder to find evidence of any wrongdoing.

 

For Tonali, all he is involved in at the minute is an investigation. Plenty of times someone has been interviewed by police and that's it, so he may well be innocent. Just ask Monkeys Fist...

If he is guilty then he will have to pay the consequences according to the law.

 

Maybe the reason he looks so glum is that he hasn't won any of his bets yet!

[Dazzler 11807]

28 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Grim thought but what would happen if it turns out to be true? You'd think anything over a year would be a contract cancellation but that leaves us massively out of pocket.

 

If it happens, will it not just be a ban in Italy? - so he's free to play anywhere else, so not impacting us at all.

[Rayvin 5922]

5 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

 

If it happens, will it not just be a ban in Italy? - so he's free to play anywhere else, so not impacting us at all.

 

That would be the ideal outcome for us, but I'm not sure exactly how it works if it is indeed a criminal situation.

[Alex 36710]

Wouldn’t we claim on the insurance if it came to his not being able to play for us? 

[ewerk 33214]

Any ban would be enforced world wide. Tottenham's DoF (Patrici I think) was banned in Italy and then enforced worldwide which is why he left.

 

Chelsea were able to sue Adrian Mutu personally for damages when he got himself banned due to testing positive for coke. I'm not sure whether the fact that the alleged offences happened at his previous club will affect that.

[ewerk 33214]

19 minutes ago, Alex said:

Wouldn’t we claim on the insurance if it came to his not being able to play for us? 

 

I'm not sure it would be that straightforward. Might be easier just to get Big Joe to dish out a two footed career ender in training.

[Polarboy 2317]

I've just read that Tonali and another player have admitted to betting on cards, but have distanced themselves from any betting on matches. Tonali, Zaniolo etc are friends with the fella who's admitted to betting on matches other than the ones he's played in himself, so maybe they went through his phone and are interviewing anyone who seems suspicious. So we just have to that betting on cards is all that Sandro was up to.  

[Rayvin 5922]

2 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

I've just read that Tonali and another player have admitted to betting on cards, but have distanced themselves from any betting on matches. Tonali, Zaniolo etc are friends with the fella who's admitted to betting on matches other than the ones he's played in himself, so maybe they went through his phone and are interviewing anyone who seems suspicious. So we just have to that betting on cards is all that Sandro was up to.  

 

So I'm going to be honest here and say my interpretation of 'betting on cards' is poker. I assume it's not that though because I don't see why they would need to 'admit' it - so what is meant by that phrase?

[Toonpack 11360]

7 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

So I'm going to be honest here and say my interpretation of 'betting on cards' is poker. I assume it's not that though because I don't see why they would need to 'admit' it - so what is meant by that phrase?

 

I suspect it's a case of them saying "all we've done is played cards for money" and that's been reported as "admitted to betting on cards"

[Alex 36710]

Scroll to 54 seconds in to see Tonali on the team coach

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Alex

[The Fish 11321]

36 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

 

So I'm going to be honest here and say my interpretation of 'betting on cards' is poker. I assume it's not that though because I don't see why they would need to 'admit' it - so what is meant by that phrase?

Nah, it'll be betting on bookings (Yellow and red cards). Same thing as Paqueta.

 

Brevity is hard.

[Polarboy 2317]

It says in a statement  in La Republica that Tonali and Zaniolo have admitted to illegal betting on blackjack and poker, so I would assume the method by which they were betting on cards was illegal i.e. a dodgy betting website etc. Which is why the term admitted was used because there is some criminality being confessed to. I would imagine a fine and slap on the wrists is all Sandro would get if it turns out he was just making illegal bets on cards, so again lets hope that's all he was up to. The silver lining of this is if indeed he only gets a slap on the wrists, is that he can then move on without it over his head, and he can fully settle and find his best form for us. Apparently he and Zaniolo's phones were seized before they moved to us and Villa respectively, so it's been hanging over Sandro's head the whole time he's been at the club. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Polarboy

[Alex 36710]

If that’s the case it’s probably even more straightforward than that. Even two friends betting with each other over a game of cards is illegal in Italy due to their strict gambling laws. So that would be a criminal matter likely resulting in a fine. The footballing authorities wouldn’t get involved you’d think (except perhaps for some sanction over something like bringing the game into disrepute should he return to an Italian team) 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Alex

[RobElliott 1803]

Well we are still waiting from the final investigation from the Sunderland Amnesty International branch?

 

We wont have closure until thats done and dusted

[Renton 23659]

2 hours ago, Toonpack said:

 

I suspect it's a case of them saying "Mamma Mia! Alla we've don-na is play-ad a cards a for a monnnney" and that's been reported as "admitted to betting on cards"

 

FYP. 

[RobElliott 1803]

We can see your hand Sandro