Alex 35082 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) Scroll to 54 seconds in to see Tonali on the team coach Edited October 13, 2023 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Rayvin said: So I'm going to be honest here and say my interpretation of 'betting on cards' is poker. I assume it's not that though because I don't see why they would need to 'admit' it - so what is meant by that phrase? Nah, it'll be betting on bookings (Yellow and red cards). Same thing as Paqueta. Brevity is hard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) It says in a statement in La Republica that Tonali and Zaniolo have admitted to illegal betting on blackjack and poker, so I would assume the method by which they were betting on cards was illegal i.e. a dodgy betting website etc. Which is why the term admitted was used because there is some criminality being confessed to. I would imagine a fine and slap on the wrists is all Sandro would get if it turns out he was just making illegal bets on cards, so again lets hope that's all he was up to. The silver lining of this is if indeed he only gets a slap on the wrists, is that he can then move on without it over his head, and he can fully settle and find his best form for us. Apparently he and Zaniolo's phones were seized before they moved to us and Villa respectively, so it's been hanging over Sandro's head the whole time he's been at the club. Edited October 13, 2023 by Polarboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) If that’s the case it’s probably even more straightforward than that. Even two friends betting with each other over a game of cards is illegal in Italy due to their strict gambling laws. So that would be a criminal matter likely resulting in a fine. The footballing authorities wouldn’t get involved you’d think (except perhaps for some sanction over something like bringing the game into disrepute should he return to an Italian team) Edited October 13, 2023 by Alex 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1493 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Well we are still waiting from the final investigation from the Sunderland Amnesty International branch? We wont have closure until thats done and dusted 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Toonpack said: I suspect it's a case of them saying "Mamma Mia! Alla we've don-na is play-ad a cards a for a monnnney" and that's been reported as "admitted to betting on cards" FYP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1493 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 We can see your hand Sandro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42444 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, RobElliott said: Plenty of times someone has been interviewed by police and that's it, so he may well be innocent. Just ask Monkeys Fist... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4156 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Phew, hopefully it's just that and nothing football related. Mad dog's first session with Tonali back: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13867 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Wow, I simply cannot believe that the internet leapt to conclusions based on fuck all 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33207 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 14 hours ago, Ayatollah Hermione said: Wow, I simply cannot believe that the internet, sky sports and talksport leapt to conclusions based on fuck all FYP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Sounds like Italy has fairly draconian gambling laws. Wouldn't be surprised if this was literally just Tonali getting caught playing online blackjack. Something PL clubs have literally advertised on their shirts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Italy#:~:text=Gambling law,-According to Italian&text=Only the State has the,ranges from fines to imprisonment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 if that's the case surely any ban would apply to italy only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 It does sound like this is probably a big enough deal to have been really bothering him. Maybe he was told that he'd probably have his playing career in Italy interfered if he stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: It does sound like this is probably a big enough deal to have been really bothering him. Maybe he was told that he'd probably have his playing career in Italy interfered if he stayed. Makes sense as to why he was seemingly pushed into a move overseas then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1493 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Hopefully if this has been bothering him, the weight will be lifted off his shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1221 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 If Tonali plays his cards right this will all work out in the end. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33207 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Anorthernsoul said: If Tonali plays his cards right this will all work out in the end. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33207 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42444 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 Shut up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 sounds like it may be more sinister than just a game of cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3894 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: sounds like it may be more sinister than just a game of cards To be fair I wouldn’t trust the Italian police to provide evidence the sun exists 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42444 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said: To be fair I wouldn’t trust the Italian police to provide evidence the sun exists Harsh. They’re under a lot of denpressure to solve the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Rayvin said: It does sound like this is probably a big enough deal to have been really bothering him. Maybe he was told that he'd probably have his playing career in Italy interfered if he stayed. I think there’s an agreement under UEFA rules that one countries FA bans would be upheld by the other nations FA’s, so if he gets banned by the Italian FA the English FA would similarly ban him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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