Eddie “ Eagle-Eyed Action Man, with Gripping Hands” Howe’s Unstoppable Force vs Playmobil Heed’s Perennial Bottle Arse(nal)’s. Sun 7th May. Saint James’es’s Park. 16:30h.

[Kid Dynamite 7637]

10 minutes ago, MMXXVIII said:

We looked weak. How it's addressed I leave in the hands of Sir Eddie.

Nah. We just played one of the best 2 teams in the country and they finished their chances better than us. We were never going to steamroller them 4-0. We hit the post twice and should have had a penalty. 
 

Put the same performance on against Leeds and we win 2 or 3-0

[Alex 36721]

Said a while back that there needs to be a time limit on VAR decisions but also that the people looking at the screens need to own that decision making instead of getting refs to have a look and then (inevitably) feel they have to change their mind 

Edited May 7, 2023 by Alex

[Renton 23678]

14 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

It's the clear and obvious bit for me that's CLEAR as day why VAR was brought in.  Ref gave a pen.  It should have stood.  It wasn't a CLEAR AND OBVIOUS error in officiating.  If it was, then why did it take numerous checks and a long time to check? 

 

This all day long btw. I didn't have good sight of it, and haven't seen replays, but the ref gave it and this should only be overturned if he's made a howler. But once he's called to the monitor, he's in an impossible position. Fucking sick of VAR. I never wanted it and its not fixable with humans involved. 

[Howay 12496]

1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Nah. We just played one of the best 2 teams in the country and they finished their chances better than us. We were never going to steamroller them 4-0. We hit the post twice and should have had a penalty. 
 

Put the same performance on against Leeds and we win 2 or 3-0

Aye agreed, if we play like this the remainder of the season we will win 3 out of 4, we just fluffed our lines. 
 

I think Wilson is a better impact sub, hopefully we go back to Isak in the middle with Joelinton wide left and bring Wilson on after 60 mins or so. Real shame we don’t have Longstaff, we lost the midfield battle today imo which forced us wide every time, still besides all that we had enough chances to get points today so only have ourselves to blame. Only silver lining is we didn’t play poorly and we’ve reacted well to losses. 

[Polarboy 2317]

What do you say about that. Firstly Ramsdale was their best player with Odegaard a close second. A bit more clinical and we could have easily won the game. A draw was the least we deserved and would have been a fair result when you, again, look at how we worked Ramsdale. But we have to give credit to Arsenal who weathered our early storm and showed some guts. You also have to acknowledge that they have players with greater technical skill in the wide attacking areas. Apart from Isak pretty much playing out of position we are weak when it comes to accurate passes into the box from our wingers. Almiron and Murphy break my heart with some of the positions they get into only to play the ball behind our attacking players or generally just waste the opportunity. The positives are that we didn't play badly and we came up against a very good team, and next up we have a team down the bottom of the table. Playing a relegation threatened team comes with its own difficulties but if we play as well as we did today we shouldn't have any problems. Related to that I hope fans do take the fact that we played well and lost a tight game to heart and don't start pissing themselves on social media about top 4. I know lads on here joke about mostly but there's some right doom merchants on twitter and elsewhere. You would hope that the players  wouldn't be affected by fan pessimism or negativity, but we should be giving all the positivity and support we can until the end regardless. Oh and Bruno clearly needs a rest. He's been shocking by his own standards for more than a few games now. The only problem is that we have no one to replace him with. That problem along with needing more technical quality in attacking areas will hopefully be addressed in the summer. We should always remember how far ahead we are of schedule. 

[Renton 23678]

2 minutes ago, Howay said:

Aye agreed, if we play like this the remainder of the season we will win 3 out of 4, we just fluffed our lines. 
 

I think Wilson is a better impact sub, hopefully we go back to Isak in the middle with Joelinton wide left and bring Wilson on after 60 mins or so. Real shame we don’t have Longstaff, we lost the midfield battle today imo which forced us wide every time, still besides all that we had enough chances to get points today so only have ourselves to blame. Only silver lining is we didn’t play poorly and we’ve reacted well to losses. 

 

It's amazing how much we miss Longstaff, he's honestly the glue and Bruno in particular plays poorly without him. He's been a quiet but massive part of this season. A Speed or Lee type player who I also never appreciated enough until they left. 

[Kid Dynamite 7637]

13 minutes ago, Howay said:

Aye agreed, if we play like this the remainder of the season we will win 3 out of 4, we just fluffed our lines. 
 

I think Wilson is a better impact sub, hopefully we go back to Isak in the middle with Joelinton wide left and bring Wilson on after 60 mins or so. Real shame we don’t have Longstaff, we lost the midfield battle today imo which forced us wide every time, still besides all that we had enough chances to get points today so only have ourselves to blame. Only silver lining is we didn’t play poorly and we’ve reacted well to losses. 

The timing of the VAR decision fucked us too. Crowd was bouncing and we were having a good go at them. 3min delay and an overturned penalty give Arsenal some life again 

[wykikitoon 22874]

How many VAR's have still stood once the cunts gone to the monitor? 

[MrBass 3045]

2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

How many VAR's have still stood once the cunts gone to the monitor? 

 

I can only recall one, can't recall what game it was in mind. 

[spongebob toonpants 4359]

15 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

It's amazing how much we miss Longstaff, he's honestly the glue and Bruno in particular plays poorly without him. He's been a quiet but massive part of this season. A Speed or Lee type player who I also never appreciated enough until they left. 

Top class defensive midfield the absolute priority this window. Especially with the extra games next season 

[Howay 12496]

6 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

The timing of the VAR decision fucked us too. Crowd was bouncing and we were having a good go at them. 3min delay and an overturned penalty give Arsenal some life again 

One of the most irritating parts was we were all over them, the ball was in the box and they were hemmed in - the ref blew his whistle and when play resumed after Var ramsdale had a free kick  

[Alex 36721]

7 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

The timing of the VAR decision fucked us too. Crowd was bouncing and we were having a good go at them. 3min delay and an overturned penalty give Arsenal some life again 

Yeah. Massive momentum shift, particularly with their scoring soon after 

[wykikitoon 22874]

What's Wor Eddie said post match btw? 

[Kid Dynamite 7637]

That Xhaka is a soft cunt and Jesus sucks cocks for baccy

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4269]

Wilson and Isak didn’t work today, it left Isak stranded snd he couldn’t get in the game properly.

[wykikitoon 22874]

Maxi did alright when he came on. At least he had a shot.  Sometime we do seem to over complicate it and not have a go.

[NJS 4564]

Much like Villa and to a much lesser extent Southampton at times, the ball went through our midfield far too easily. 

 

I think we need Longstaff back ASAP. 

 

Also to sort of invoke Gary Player's quote about luck, better teams tend to get more breaks (even allowing for corruption). 

 

It'll come. 

[Alex 36721]

4 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

Wilson and Isak didn’t work today, it left Isak stranded snd he couldn’t get in the game properly.

I know it sounds a bit wise after the event but I wasn’t enamoured with idea of them starting together. I think they definitely can next season at times, but one or the other coming off the bench as and when needed has worked so well recently. 

[Isegrim 10350]

It’s ridiculous that we are always on the wrong end of controversial VAR decisions. This foes also include those incidents when legitimate penalty calls didn’t get checked all.

 

This whole VAR business foes seem a bit arbitrary to me tbh.

[Isegrim 10350]

Speaking of it, funny that the handball by Lindelof doesn’t even get looked at.

[Renton 23678]

21 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

The timing of the VAR decision fucked us too. Crowd was bouncing and we were having a good go at them. 3min delay and an overturned penalty give Arsenal some life again 

 

Very true. BUT. If we're going to achieve anything we have to cope better with this shit type of situation. Again, I fucking love him, but you can see Bruno getting overwound up, giving away  a needless free kick, and then ultimately gifting it to Odengaard, who's deadly from range. Although tbf, this had a rerun of Liverpool all over again at this point but although the scoreline was the same, we were ultimately more controlled and just beaten by a better team on the day.

 

We need to remain professional and beat Leeds. I believe we will. Given an either or choice, I'd actually rather beat them tbh. 

[ThatGinolaVolley 144]

I don't think there was anything too disheartening there. We were all over them until what was sadly a quality strike from Odergaard, then it was end-to-end from that point on, could easily have been us that got the next goal, instead it was them.

 

Not sure it was handball for the penalty, but if it takes that long for VAR to think about it there's no way it's a clear and obvious error, so should have stood.

 

We missed Longstaff, we just look more solid with him in the team (or rather, Bruno looks less solid without him in the team).

 

I think Howe had to start with Wilson and Isak this game, along with Murphy they are the most in-form players that can play in the front three, and Longstaff was out so Joelinton had to move back into midfield, making it a choice of Isak or Gordon on the left - but the other subs just don't have the impact that bringing on Wilson/Isak can have, so what we gain in the first half we lose in the second. Didn't work this time, will be interesting to see what he does against Leeds if Longstaff is still out. If he's back it's an easier call to to move Joelinton into the front three making it Joelinton - Isak/Wilson -  Murphy/Almiron.

[Renton 23678]

25 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

That Xhaka is a soft cunt and Jesus sucks cocks for baccy

 

I remember that from RE I think. Here it is, John 7 verse 25:

 

"And verily, Xhaka was sitting crying, having being nudged softly from his friend Scharr. Jesus comforted the man, before attesting 'Know this Xhaka, there is a place in my Father's house where your buttock contusions will be soothed. But now I must go, forsooth I must suck some cocks for baccy''".

 

 

[MMXXVIII 1296]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Nah. We just played one of the best 2 teams in the country and they finished their chances better than us. We were never going to steamroller them 4-0. We hit the post twice and should have had a penalty. 
 

Put the same performance on against Leeds and we win 2 or 3-0

Generally speaking I thought we looked weak. You want your go?

[wykikitoon 22874]

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