Holden McGroin 7826 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 You factor in the old xH (heart) variable to get a more realistic value. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ackas 311 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 05:30, LongTimeAdmirer said: liverpool scored 7 from xG of 2.79 whats the point of it ? Expand There's no point. That's the point. The whole xG thing was invented to increase traffic on footy bulletin boards. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 37578 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 I think it’s probably a useful analytical tool. From a professional / academic pov. I’ve got next to no interest in discussing it much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11386 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 05:30, LongTimeAdmirer said: liverpool scored 7 from xG of 2.79 whats the point of it ? Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11965 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 11:29, Alex said: I think it’s probably a useful analytical tool. From a professional / academic pov. I’ve got next to no interest in discussing it much though. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24315 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 🎼 xG,, huh, yeah What is it good for? Absolutely nothing, uhh 🎵 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2467 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 58% of statistics are made up anyway 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11965 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 37598 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 22/03/2023 at 13:30, Toonpack said: Expand Christina's idea of work and mine differ a little. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11386 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 20/03/2023 at 02:53, LongTimeAdmirer said: The xG crowd just taking the piss now Expand I like this stat. Seen something similar with goal kicks too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45982 Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 On 22/03/2023 at 14:51, The Fish said: I like this stat. Seen something similar with goal kicks too. Expand It’s a bit of mouthful though. Needs a snappy abbreviation, like NPxGAT. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24120 Posted May 12, 2023 Author Share Posted May 12, 2023 We are underperforming our xG, apparently. Make of that what you will https://theathletic.com/4510071/2023/05/12/premier-league-xg-scoring/?source=user_shared_article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33839 Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11386 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 12/05/2023 at 16:04, Dr Gloom said: We are underperforming our xG, apparently. Make of that what you will https://theathletic.com/4510071/2023/05/12/premier-league-xg-scoring/?source=user_shared_article Expand And when you consider Almiron, Wilson and Isak are significantly overperforming their xG you have to look at the drop off in midfield and defence. Willock is the most wasteful. What's killing us is set pieces, we're creating so many good opportunities but our defenders haven't scored a single goal from them. In fact, our only goals from defenders were Schar's thunderbastard against Forest in our first game and Trippier's freekick against Man City in our 3rd game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24315 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:27, The Fish said: And when you consider Almiron, Wilson and Isak are significantly overperforming their xG you have to look at the drop off in midfield and defence. Willock is the most wasteful. What's killing us is set pieces, we're creating so many good opportunities but our defenders haven't scored a single goal from them. In fact, our only goals from defenders were Schar's thunderbastard against Forest in our first game and Trippier's freekick against Man City in our 3rd game. Expand You don't need spreadsheets and xG to tell you that though. Does this include corners btw? I can't seem to find any information on that and my memory for goals is shit. I did find we have won the most corners of any PL side mind, 249 of the bastards this season! Have we fucking not converted any of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4673 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 There was a "clever" short one we scored from against Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11386 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:43, Renton said: You don't need spreadsheets and xG to tell you that though. Does this include corners btw? I can't seem to find any information on that and my memory for goals is shit. I did find we have won the most corners of any PL side mind, 249 of the bastards this season! Have we fucking not converted any of them? Expand There is, I've asked someone on twitter to provide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51855 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:43, Renton said: You don't need spreadsheets and xG to tell you that though. Does this include corners btw? I can't seem to find any information on that and my memory for goals is shit. I did find we have won the most corners of any PL side mind, 249 of the bastards this season! Have we fucking not converted any of them? Expand We're massively underperforming our xG from corners and set pieces as per the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 51855 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 13:58, The Fish said: There is, I've asked someone on twitter to provide Expand Understat.com is class. That's where I got the above table from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24315 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I don't get it like. I thought all our goals came from scrappy set pieces, throw ins etc. But this implies we score mainly from open play like Barcelona, Brazil, or the mackems? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7826 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 It’s hard to work out if they are joking or not half the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11965 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 The maddening thing is Scharr gets on the end of loads of corners but couldn't hit a barn door, he must wear some form of handsomeness cloaking device but his head is in reality like this: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 24315 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 14:24, Holden McGroin said: It’s hard to work out if they are joking or not half the time. Expand No, it's not a joke. Part of their coping mechanism, like their imagined "classiness", is that we are ultimately hoofball merchants and regarded as the Luton of the PL. And they really do believe that they are 1970s Brazil. It's mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11965 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 As for being "dirty" we're not in top 10 of Prem league for fouls committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 24120 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 15/05/2023 at 14:10, Gemmill said: Understat.com is class. That's where I got the above table from. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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