Wor Eddie's Fuck The Draw Bastards v Eriks Schmoking the Pancake School Meal Wankers - AKA The League Cup Final + Gemmill Loves Excel

[RobinRobin 11281]

4 minutes ago, Alex said:

No. I don’t think it was a yellow. For the free kick it was an attempted shoulder charge but it was into Rashford’s back. He went down easy but was entitled to do so. It was a daft challenge to make 

I thought it was a yellow.  Maxi was away and it was cynical and unnecessary.  Unfortunately, they had the sense to replace him with someone who could tackle.

[Toonpack 9423]

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

something isn't right with wilson. he looks like a different player. it's weird because all players have slumps in form but this looks like something else. worrying

 

He's off the pace both physically and mentally, it's very strange, long Covid possibly.

 

Mate of mine's Mrs, normally extremely fit (in every sense) was absolutely wiped out for months by it.

[Alex 35083]

3 minutes ago, RobinRobin said:

I thought it was a yellow.  Maxi was away and it was cynical and unnecessary.  Unfortunately, they had the sense to replace him with someone who could tackle.

Yeah deliberate trip so you’re probably right. It wasn’t in a particularly dangerous area but cynical so aye. 

[Renton 21627]

28 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Aye we said this to some of their lot after the game, they agreed that if it had been played in November we’d have twatted them. We were in a pub across from Great Portland Street tube station, it was rammed with Mags post game. Every time two or three mancs wandered in with their shiny new scarves on they were greeted with a chorus of 

 

GEORDIE BOYS ARE ON A BENDER/ MASON GREENWOOD IS A SEX OFFENDER  

 

which most took in good humour tbf ☺️
 

Am not complaining or particularly pissed off with yesterday but to say Man Utd were shite isn’t a reflection of what I watched. After the goals they pretty much knew how to shut the game down and we at this stage of our development didn’t really know how to change that. We’re a few transfer windows away from that level . First we need to start taking some the chances we do create . Where Wilson was when the ball was squared clean across the six yard box in the first half I think only he knows. That’s the game changing chance, and he was AWOL. God knows what’s wrong with that lad but I think there’s more to it than loss of form.  Maxi was getting double teamed which he can’t deal with (not many can tbf) Bruno faded then appeared to get injured going for a ball that maybe wasn’t there to be won. Their first goal wasn’t a free kick in the first place as long long as I’ve got a hole in my arse. Isak started well but as usual when I’ve seen him play gets frustrated with those around him and goes into the huff a bit. 
 

I asked a Manc if they’re confused about the Glazers, singing how they want them out just before full time holding aloft the scarves that had been handed out by the Glazers. I mentioned the titles and champions leagues they’d won under their ownership, he mumbled something about not being able to remember much after 1999 which was exceedingly convenient for the purposes of the conversation. That’s the biggest takeaway from yesterday, the sheer entitled arrogance of these fuckers. That was the hardest thing to take, not what happened on the pitch… 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Completely agree with the post and sentiment. I somehow always managed to avoid really hating ManU until now but my GOd what a bunch of cunts some of their fanbase is. Not all cos I'm currently sat in the office with a ManU fan and she's alright, but then she is a genuine manc and come from a family of ManU supporters so I've no truck with that. 

 

If you have to single out one player who has let us down in recent weeks its Wilson. He could have been the difference yesterday and I'm really questioning why Howe started him, must be doing something different in training I guess. Isak look like a fine player but I'm not convinced he's a number 9. It's difficult yt be successful without a proper centre forward. I'd like us to buy at least one quality player in this position. 

 

Biggest fear now is can we pick ourselves up, will this have released the pressuire or will apthy set in? I can't see a successful result for us at the Ethiad next week and by that time the gap between us and 4th might be menatally unassailable. And I know we should be delighted with a lower Euro spot, but this will bring its own issues next year. Oh well, at least I'm not hung over this morning, just full of cold instead, typical. 

[Alex 35083]

Re: Wilson it’s a worry because missing chances is one thing but he doesn’t look near to getting on the end of things. I actually think it’s the biggest factor in our struggle to break teams down at the minute.  

[Dr Gloom 21924]

7 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

He's off the pace both physically and mentally, it's very strange, long Covid possibly.

 

Mate of mine's Mrs, normally extremely fit (in every sense) was absolutely wiped out for months by it.

 

aye, i heard that rumour too 

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

1 hour ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Aye. Tried to convince myself that it was a one off game where form went out the window but it obviously wasn’t the case

I thought the occasion got to us a bit. We should have been pressing them like we did against Southampton in the semi final. High tempo football. They've played a load more games than us and they would have tired in the second half.

 

A lot of the game was played at walking pace though. Not sure if being caught twice on the break by Liverpool last week has Howe setting us up more cautiously?  But that's not what got us in the top 4 all season.
 

I'm a bit fucked off this morning that we gave De Gea one shot to save in 90mins. Their front 4 did fuck all all game and we still managed to concede twice. Time to let Isak and Gordon earn their transfer fees and make sure we finish top 6

[wykikitoon 20151]

19 minutes ago, Alex said:

No. I don’t think it was a yellow. For the free kick it was an attempted shoulder charge but it was into Rashford’s back. He went down easy but was entitled to do so. It was a daft challenge to make 

I said on here at the time Bruno needed to chill.  Rashford was going nowhere.  He just needed to stand up and press him.  He was only going to pass back.

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

9 minutes ago, Alex said:

Re: Wilson it’s a worry because missing chances is one thing but he doesn’t look near to getting on the end of things. I actually think it’s the biggest factor in our struggle to break teams down at the minute.  

Well the club want shooting with shit for not replacing Wood if that's true. 2 strikers in the squad, and ones fucked

[PaddockLad 17274]

18 minutes ago, RobinRobin said:

I thought it was a yellow.  Maxi was away and it was cynical and unnecessary.  Unfortunately, they had the sense to replace him with someone who could tackle.

Wan Bissaka was right in front of us for the whole second half and looked really good. Opinion about him has been revised a bit  

[wykikitoon 20151]

How is @Christmas Tree this morning?

[Alex 35083]

2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Well the club want shooting with shit for not replacing Wood if that's true. 2 strikers in the squad, and ones fucked

I think letting Wood go was a no brainer tbh. The fee and the knock-on of getting those wages off the book. He was in dreadful form when he left too. I really don’t think he was capable of making much of a different in the second half of the season. Then even if he’s not an out and out 9 you have Isak and I think I read Gordon can play anywhere across the front 3. 

[Toonpack 9423]

6 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Well the club want shooting with shit for not replacing Wood if that's true. 2 strikers in the squad, and ones fucked

 

The club want shooting with absolutely nothing FFS, remember where we have come from. Jesus.

[wykikitoon 20151]

Letting Wood and Shelvey go was a good move by the club IMO.  We got £15m for a player who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.  He will have been on cushy wages too.  It also helps keep club harmony and it shows Howe isn't a cunt.  That will go a long way IMO with signing players.  Shelvey was on a reported £80k+ a week so that's off the wage bill too.

[ewerk 30616]

18 hours ago, Renton said:

As @Meenzer would say, what a time to give up the drink! 

 

Still, at least you're keeping yourself busy to take your mind off it.

 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

6 minutes ago, Alex said:

Re: Wilson it’s a worry because missing chances is one thing but he doesn’t look near to getting on the end of things. I actually think it’s the biggest factor in our struggle to break teams down at the minute.  

 

100%. that plus bruno not being in the side for the past 3 games. 

 

might be the stage in the season to mix things up and try new systems. howe put his faith in the 4-3-3 with burn at left back because it worked so well for so long. it isn't working anymore. if i were him, i'd give Isak a run of games and put targett back in at left back once he's fully fit and give the centre backs the occasional rest. shame we don't have that luxury at CM

[Renton 21627]

13 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

Still, at least you're keeping yourself busy to take your mind off it.

 

 

Tell me about it. That's 0.57 pence a bean and a massive 22.9 pence per sausage. THAT IS A DISGRACE.

 

 

[wykikitoon 20151]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

100%. that plus bruno not being in the side for the past 3 games. 

 

might be the stage in the season to mix things up and try new systems. howe put his faith in the 4-3-3 with burn at left back because it worked so well for so long. it isn't working anymore. if i were him, i'd give Isak a run of games and put targett back in at left back once he's fully fit and give the centre backs the occasional rest. shame we don't have that luxury at CM

I would also have Gordon in too.

[Renton 21627]

3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

100%. that plus bruno not being in the side for the past 3 games. 

 

might be the stage in the season to mix things up and try new systems. howe put his faith in the 4-3-3 with burn at left back because it worked so well for so long. it isn't working anymore. if i were him, i'd give Isak a run of games and put targett back in at left back once he's fully fit and give the centre backs the occasional rest. shame we don't have that luxury at CM

 

Naah, don't rest your CBs unless there is good reason to. We're out of all the cups now so there is no need to. A settled defence is what got us here. Whether you swithch big Dan for Targett is a different matter. Worth bearing in mind that for me the defence didn't let us down yesterday either. First goal I think was offside and the second was just a freak thing you can't legislate for. ManU are now a very good side, arguably on the the best form in the league. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13869]

42 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Wan Bissaka was right in front of us for the whole second half and looked really good. Opinion about him has been revised a bit  

He’s a cracking defender, albeit limited going forward. When I saw Dalot was starting, I felt positive about Maxi against him, especially with his early booking but when I saw Wan Bissaka come on, I knew he’d struggle

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

59 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The club want shooting with absolutely nothing FFS, remember where we have come from. Jesus.

 

[Kid Dynamite 7030]

53 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Letting Wood and Shelvey go was a good move by the club IMO.  We got £15m for a player who couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo.  He will have been on cushy wages too.  It also helps keep club harmony and it shows Howe isn't a cunt.  That will go a long way IMO with signing players.  Shelvey was on a reported £80k+ a week so that's off the wage bill too.

I don't mind us letting them go, but we didn't replace either and it has left the squad short. We've got a brilliant opportunity this season to finish top 4. Odds are slim to none that Liverpool and Chelsea will spend next season in mid table. Man United were shit for 15 games and Spurs aren't much better.

 

"shooting with shit" might be strong, but the club isn't infallible. I'm not convinced £45mil on Gordon was the right place to pump our whole budget. We've totally run out of ideas in the final 3rd for nearly 2 months now and a Maddison type creative player should have been top of the list. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Kid Dynamite

[Isegrim 9777]

The good thing about losing my phone on the train yesterday was that didn’t read any match reports and comments after the game and can’t be arsed now after picking the mobile up at the train station in Aylesbury.

[Alex 35083]

20 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I don't mind us letting them go, but we didn't replace either and it has left the squad short. We've got a brilliant opportunity this season to finish top 4. Odds are slim to none that Liverpool and Chelsea will spend next season in mid table. Man United were shit for 15 games and Spurs aren't much better.

 

"shooting with shit" might be strong, but the club isn't infallible. I'm not convinced £45mil on Gordon was the right place to pump our whole budget. We've totally run out of ideas in the final 3rd for nearly 2 months now and a Maddison type creative player should have been top of the list. 

It’s left us short in the short term to  give us much more leverage in the summer though. Thing is - who’s to say anyone would buy Wood for that sort of fee in the summer? Then you might be saddled with a forward who was just a stop gap. Shelvey had that extension clause and would be difficult to move on too if that had been triggered. 
What if Maddison or a similar type of player wasn’t available but us in the summer? Obviously that’s hypothetical but if Maddison is a target it’s unlikely Leicester would’ve sold him in January and jeopardise PL status. January isn’t the ideal time to buy. 12 months ago was different as we were absolutely desperate to get bodies in. 
Re: Gordon. That was securing a long term target who was eventually available at the price we were willing to pay. I know what you mean about certain clubs performing below what you’d expect, meaning a top 4 spot is potentially up for grabs. But the club’s only fucked up if they chose not to sign the right sort of players in the last window. Which seems unlikely.
The other thing is we’ll definitely come under more scrutiny than anyone around FFP. 

Edited February 27, 2023 by Alex

[Gemmill 44894]

The reality is that we're still a club in the early stages of transition. And you get a few months a year, and only one month within the season to implement the transition plan.

 

So at any one time outside of transfer windows, that's what we're going to look like. A freeze frame of a club that is undergoing massive change. That'll be especially the case in the second half of the season where you gets the bits of business done in the January that you can. 

 

Sometimes you'll look like you've fucked up, but it's just cos you can't neatly iterate a version of what the finished article will look like.