How about a nice set of draws, pet v The gnashing walls of perpetual whining and phlegm, la.

[Renton 23669]

On 17/02/2023 at 11:47, Renton said:

 

Trophyshy then.

 

 

 

 

 

And now.

 

 

At least I don't have to lick CT's gusset.

Edited February 18, 2023 by Renton

[Dr Gloom 23641]

@thebrokendoll please get back on thread starting duty for the cup final. We’re undefeated on your watch 

[wykikitoon 22865]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

@thebrokendoll please get back on thread starting duty for the cup final. We’re undefeated on your watch 

[OTF 8417]

3 minutes ago, Polarboy said:

 

Redknapp was saying it's a stupid rule that needs changed in reference to Pope getting sent off in those circumstances. Then again Redknapp could be talking out of his arse and not actually know what the rules are. 

 

It's all down to whether it was an "obvious goal scoring opportunity". If it's immediately a handball there's no doubt that it was, however that was not the case. Pope heads it first and then handles the ball on the ground. In that time two of our defenders have covered ground to be between their player and the goal. Personally I think we have a case, but I'm biased so can't tell whether that's reality or my black and white specs.

[Chaser 1367]

2 minutes ago, OTF said:

 

It's all down to whether it was an "obvious goal scoring opportunity". If it's immediately a handball there's no doubt that it was, however that was not the case. Pope heads it first and then handles the ball on the ground. In that time two of our defenders have covered ground to be between their player and the goal. Personally I think we have a case, but I'm biased so can't tell whether that's reality or my black and white specs.

If we can appeal, and the appeal can be heard before next week then I say we appeal and take the risk of escalation. 

[strawb 4639]

Proud of the lads tonight, liverpool scored two quality goals that can happen if we play high up the pitch. Which we need to, to allow our players to press.

 

Once we went down to 10 they grafted their tits off, a couple of years ago we lose that 6-0. 
 

It’s a shame to lose Pope for the final but Karius will be fine. 

[OTF 8417]

4 minutes ago, Chaser said:

If we can appeal, and the appeal can be heard before next week then I say we appeal and take the risk of escalation. 

 

Agree. There's very little chance that they would extend the ban for this IMO. They'd have to consider it frivilous, there enough contention here and in the context of a cup final where our second option is cup tied it is anything but frivilous.

[Christmas Tree 5104]

14 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

IF he plays like he did today absolutely.  But he's got form for playing hot and cold too much.

He was man of the match and our main creative output. Undroppable for the final imo.

[OTF 8417]

Just now, strawb said:

Proud of the lads tonight, liverpool scored two quality goals that can happen if we play high up the pitch. Which we need to, to allow our players to press.

 

Once we went down to 10 they grafted their tits off, a couple of years ago we lose that 6-0. 
 

It’s a shame to lose Pope for the final but Karius will be fine. 

 

Well said, if you press from the front, and have possession far up the pitch it naturally brings the defenders further up the pitch as you can't leave space between the defense and midfield.

 

If Karius does play there will be something poetic about it...

[Renton 23669]

Coming back from the match now. Twenty five catastrophic minutes. The only positive is that things didn't get worse following Pope's dismissal. I've reluctantly been dragged back to reality now, no expectations of silverware or CL football next year. In a way its a relief. I was getting way too stressed. Not now though.

[Gemmill 49964]

21 minutes ago, OTF said:

 

Howe was questioning the red in the post match interview but also offering the disclaimer that he was not sure of the rules surrounding red cards for handballs.

 

If there is any avenue for appeal we will take it, as I said earlier when he handled the ball we had two player goal side of the ball and their forward and it was 40 yards from goal.

 

Jamie Redknapp was saying he thinks a) there were defenders there, and b) if that's an outfield player it's a yellow, so why a red for a keeper. 

 

I almost felt a bit bad for calling his dad a scrotum face. 

[Renton 23669]

4 minutes ago, strawb said:

Proud of the lads tonight, liverpool scored two quality goals that can happen if we play high up the pitch. Which we need to, to allow our players to press.

 

Once we went down to 10 they grafted their tits off, a couple of years ago we lose that 6-0. 
 

It’s a shame to lose Pope for the final but Karius will be fine. 

 

Whtly the fuck was Pope part of the high press though. I mean that's going a bit far.

 

[wykikitoon 22865]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Jamie Redknapp was saying he thinks a) there were defenders there, and b) if that's an outfield player it's a yellow, so why a red for a keeper. 

 

I almost felt a bit bad for calling his dad a scrotum face. 

It's true though.  He looks like he's been apple bobbing in a chip pan. 

[Surreymag 71]

Thought we put a shift in got caught cold for the goals but after the sending off we created some good chances and only ran out of steam in injury time knowing the game was up. Oh well Pope will be kicking himself and roll on next week.

[Alex 36714]

36 minutes ago, Sakisle said:

1 win in 7 in the league…what went wrong 

Subtle 👍🏻

[Dr Gloom 23641]

5 minutes ago, Renton said:

Coming back from the match now. Twenty five catastrophic minutes. The only positive is that things didn't get worse following Pope's dismissal. I've reluctantly been dragged back to reality now, no expectations of silverware or CL football next year. In a way its a relief. I was getting way too stressed. Not now though.

I thought we were brilliant today. Liverpool scored two goals, the sending off was unfortunate and we should have scored at least 2-3. Disappointing game but CL is still in our hands and Bruno is back for the final. 
 

[Howay 12496]

We should absolutely appeal tbh. The absolute fewmmmm if it got overturned or it delayed the ban long enough for him to play. 

Edited February 18, 2023 by Howay

[OTF 8417]

Just rewatched the red card, it will be a hard task to get it overturned. There was only one player goal side, so if it was the last defender who handled there with just the keeper left I still think it would be given as a red. If Pope didn't instinctively cup his hand around the ball it still would have hit his outstretched arm (in a natural position). No hope for Pope

 

In Karius we trust.

 

 

Edited February 18, 2023 by OTF

[Renton 23669]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

I thought we were brilliant today. Liverpool scored two goals, the sending off was unfortunate and we should have scored at least 2-3. Disappointing game but CL is still in our hands and Bruno is back for the final. 
 

 

I thought we'd win today. And yeah, we played very well with 10 men. I would have been more confident with Drubavka next week, but know nowt about our third choice keeper. Regardless, we've ran out of steam. I don't think top 4 is happening now. But if it does, that's now a massive bonus for me.

[Gemmill 49964]

A key component of our appeal should be that 2023 Salah is fucking shite. 

[Surreymag 71]

An appeal will not save him he handled the ball outside the box that is a deliberate action and a red card is issued. I have just looked it up.

[Alex 36714]

1 minute ago, Surreymag said:

An appeal will not save him he handled the ball outside the box that is a deliberate action and a red card is issued. I have just looked it up.

He’s probably get a longer ban (for a spurious appeal) 

[wykikitoon 22865]

Only our second loss of the season and against Liverpool. So let's be positive still. 

[Alex 36714]

48 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

It's true though.  He looks like he's been apple bobbing in a chip pan. 

He was quite handsome before almost being killed in a car crash. You CUNT!!!

 

[OTF 8417]

2 minutes ago, Surreymag said:

An appeal will not save him he handled the ball outside the box that is a deliberate action and a red card is issued. I have just looked it up.

 

If it's deliberate and prevents an obvious goal scoring opportunity. The latter is the only part in contention, however upon my own follow up review it's a tenuous argument, if it goes straight off Pope's head to Salah and he takes the shot immediately our defender may not have been able to cover it in time due to the angle.