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16 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

How the fuck is this CUNT Carragher allowed to commentate on these? 

 

Don't worry Wykiki, he won't be commentating on us us next week, that'll be Tyler and GARY NEVILLE for the cup final v MANCHESTER UNITED. It's in the Sky rule book. Carragher does Liverpool, Neville Man U and when they play each other you get both in case either club's set of arsehole fans in the south of England and the Midlands get upset. :good: 

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18 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

Teams go through sticky patches.  We have lost one, just ONE in our sticky patch.  If thats the only loss, then lets have it.

 

there were signs yesterday that we were coming back into form. maxi finding some form is a a masssive boost ahead of the cup final. i think he'll be up for it next week  - as he often is against the top clubs - and has to start on yesterday's evidence.

 

though it wouldn't surprise me if how picks willock again, if fit, moves joe back out wide and drops maxi 

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37 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

The one sickener is Pope missing the final. He doesn’t deserve that 

 

He does though. I haven't yet watched the highlights but it was at least the third ocassion he had to come that far out his box and the outcome was almost inevitable eventually. For all our attacking flair in the opening 15 minutes, our defending was suicidal. If we do this agains ManU we will get the same result. Howe has to take some blame here. 

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2 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

He does though. I haven't yet watched the highlights but it was at least the third ocassion he had to come that far out his box and the outcome was almost inevitable eventually. For all our attacking flair in the opening 15 minutes, our defending was suicidal. If we do this agains ManU we will get the same result. Howe has to take some blame here. 

 

i dunno. it was a moment of madness and we had two covering defenders. i know that by the letter of the law he has to go but missing the final seems incredibly harsh. i'm obviously viewing it with me black and white specs on but he's a good bloke and there was no malice in it. he just instinctively handled the ball after going over. i don't think he it was intentional, if that makes sense. more like muscle memory in a moment of panic.  

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Btw, what did the match sound and look like on Sky? Because the speaker system ws compeletely fucked and spoilt the Bobby Robson tribute to some extent, and then they have introduced this drone camera thingy. It's on 4 wires from the corners and I initially at least found it incredibly distracting, especially as I had a wire directly in my line of sight.. You can see the wires below (the camera is about the size of a child, but blend into the background here, but very noticeable IRL). Seems to me another thing to fuck off match going fans to give those at home a better "experience". Bah, humbug. 

 

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1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i dunno. it was a moment of madness and we had two covering defenders. i know that by the letter of the law he has to go but missing the final seems incredibly harsh. i'm obviously viewing it with me black and white specs on but he's a good bloke and there was no malice in it. he just instinctively handled the ball after going over. i don't think he it was intentional, if that makes sense. more like muscle memory in a moment of panic.  

 

But the way we were playing made it inevitable.Harsh on the individual of course, but he had zero complaints iirc. Him and Howe knoew the rules before the game. We would be demanding a red card if the situation were reversed. I dunno, we were reckless when there was no need, Howe's first major tactical blunder for me. I think the lack of goals is getting to him, he needed to be more patient. 

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5 minutes ago, Renton said:

Btw, what did the match sound and look like on Sky? Because the speaker system ws compeletely fucked and spoilt the Bobby Robson tribute to some extent, and then they have introduced this drone camera thingy. It's on 4 wires from the corners and I initially at least found it incredibly distracting, especially as I had a wire directly in my line of sight.. You can see the wires below (the camera is about the size of a child, but blend into the background here, but very noticeable IRL). Seems to me another thing to fuck off match going fans to give those at home a better "experience". Bah, humbug. 

 

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When they announced the Atsu thing you could hear it was fucked and some of the players looked confused. 

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24 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

But the way we were playing made it inevitable.Harsh on the individual of course, but he had zero complaints iirc. Him and Howe knoew the rules before the game. We would be demanding a red card if the situation were reversed. I dunno, we were reckless when there was no need, Howe's first major tactical blunder for me. I think the lack of goals is getting to him, he needed to be more patient. 


I wouldn’t call Pope catching the ball outside the box an inevitable consequence of having a sweeper keeper like. 

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25 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

But the way we were playing made it inevitable.Harsh on the individual of course, but he had zero complaints iirc. Him and Howe knoew the rules before the game. We would be demanding a red card if the situation were reversed. I dunno, we were reckless when there was no need, Howe's first major tactical blunder for me. I think the lack of goals is getting to him, he needed to be more patient. 


yeah, has to be a red card by the letter of the law. It’s a stupid rule though if you ask me. 

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22 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:


I wouldn’t call Pope catching the ball outside the box an inevitable consequence of having a sweeper keeper like. 

 

Over time I would say it's pretty likely like. 

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1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

Over time I would say it's pretty likely like. 


Playing a sweeper keeper is a style of play that carries risk but so is pressing high up the pitch, which leaves us open to quick counter attacks, which is how we conceded the two goals yesterday. This style has got us to where we are. I’d much rather carry on playing like this and lose the odd game than retreat.

 

I hope the goals conceded and the red card don’t cloud the players’ minds too much and they go out and play their normal game. That’s our best of winning on Sunday 

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As already mentioned ASM had a very good game and should start next week as for which goalkeeper to play flip a coin but Karius gets my vote…..yes he hasn’t played for ages but I can see him having a brilliant game

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5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:


Playing a sweeper keeper is a style of play that carries risk but so is pressing high up the pitch, which leaves us open to quick counter attacks, which is how we conceded the two goals yesterday. This style has got us to where we are. I’d much rather carry on playing like this and lose the odd game than retreat.

 

I hope the goals conceded and the red card don’t cloud the players’ minds too much and they go out and play their normal game. That’s our best of winning on Sunday 

 

Maybe. I think it depends on the opposition. It didn't work against luverpool though, and I think we need to acknowledge that. We played better with 10 men with a more counter attacking style. I've still got complete faith in Howe to get it right next week like.

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1 hour ago, Toonpack said:

 

Could be, I know he went in nets once, my old brain gets a bit mixed up!!

 

Still think he was laughing about that and not at us.

 

Yes you dills, Pepe Reina headbutted James Perch and was sent off. We were 2-0 up at the time and they'd used all their subs so Enrique went in goal for them and kept a clean sheet for the remainder of the game. He's making a joke at his own expense.

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I would start with ASM and Isak next week which means Wilson on the bench

 

Karius

Trippier

Schar

Botman

Burn

Bruno

Joelinton

Longstaff

Almiron

Isak

ASM

 

Subs

Wilson

Willock

Anderson

Murphy

Targett ...probably to early for him as he's only played 60 min of U21 game

etc 

etc

 

But knowing ASM he'll have one of those games running into blind alleys and producing nothing so maybe Wilson and Isak both start

 

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25 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Maybe. I think it depends on the opposition. It didn't work against luverpool though, and I think we need to acknowledge that. We played better with 10 men with a more counter attacking style. I've still got complete faith in Howe to get it right next week like.


The only time we have deviated from our style this season was Arsenal away. And that’s because Arsenal were the home side and were better than us that day, forcing us to adapt. Every other game we have set up to press high in a 4-3-3.
 

Howe strikes me as the sort of manager who wants the opposition to worry about the threat we pose rather than switching to plan B depending on the opposition. I’m not sure we even have a plan B tbh as we haven’t seen one this season.
 

It’s worked for the most part but there’s still plenty of time for the wheels to fall off!

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4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

I think the strength in depth I.e lack of one, dictates we don't have a plan B 😂


the lack of depth is plain to see but I don’t think Eddie has changed shape once this season other than against Bournemouth where we briefly played a 4-2-3-1 - has he? 

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Like, if we’re chasing a goal, it’s like for like changes rather than throwing two up front. I think it be because they work so hard on the system and how to press in training. Everyone knows their role and they work on it all week so he’s reluctant to switch up the style too much 

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1 hour ago, OTF said:

 

Yes you dills, Pepe Reina headbutted James Perch and was sent off. We were 2-0 up at the time and they'd used all their subs so Enrique went in goal for them and kept a clean sheet for the remainder of the game. He's making a joke at his own expense.

Nah, he’s of course referencing that but he’s taking the piss out of our situation. Here’s a little sample of his many, many posts around yesterdays game:

 

 


It was 100% a joke at our expense in the situation. His replies to the post point to it as well. The blokes a complete helmet, as Alex says he is one of those blokes who played for those scumbags and likes to think he had a career that mattered there so belittles the clubs he played decently for (see Bellamy as another example). 

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Somebody in the Pope family must have had a bet yesterday🤣

 

From NUFC.com

 

While Nick Pope made the headlines for his dismissal against Liverpool, he wasn't the only member of his family to have issues with officialdom on Saturday.

Pope's elder brother Josh - also a goalkeeper - was red-carded earlier in the day for Mildenhall Town against Harleston Town in the Eastern Counties League
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