Arteta's long suffering jellied eels v Eddie's Stottie fuelled northern raiders (- Gemmill + Trips, massive net gain tbh)

[The Fish 10857]

40 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

No interested parties for the sale so far. I imagine Man United will go before Liverpool do, although I gather there's very little interest there either. The prices they're asking are crazy. If you just want a PL presence, you can do that for a lot less money than Liverpool and Man United are asking - see Bournemouth. You get a project rather than a finished article, but what you also get is a fan base appreciative of progress rather than one demanding immediate trophies when there's only 4 to share around each season. 

 

Wouldn't anyone buying Man Utd also have to go over every commercial deal they currently have? That's a phat book of business. Official cooking oil partners, tractor part partners and all that. 

 

What a ball ache that is. Instead, like you say, you could buy Brentford for comparative buttons, change very little on the football side and work at improving their global footprint/commercial portfolio. Reap the benefits from that in no time. 

[Meenzer 15531]

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Wouldn't anyone buying Man Utd also have to go over every commercial deal they currently have? That's a phat book of business. Official cooking oil partners, tractor part partners and all that. 

 

What a ball ache that is. Instead, like you say, you could buy Brentford for comparative buttons, change very little on the football side and work at improving their global footprint/commercial portfolio. Reap the benefits from that in no time. 

 

Brentford do have that all-important turmeric partnership that would take quite some unravelling.

[The Fish 10857]

2 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

 

Brentford do have that all-important turmeric partnership that would take quite some unravelling.

Meet with them first, to curry favour.

[RobinRobin 11281]

9 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Meet with them first, to curry favour.

[David Kelly 1245]

1 hour ago, PaddockLad said:

I think that would depend on who  ends up buying them tbh . Man Utd up for sale too. We’re not getting this all our own way and no club ever has gone. Wenger stopped Ferguson for a while, Chelsea didn’t win the league every year. People are getting ahead of themselves. They need to chill out a bit and just see what happens . It’s great just to be in the running at the moment 👍

Lets not forget that Liverpool went years without being a true premier league force before Klopp.  Of course we would have given anything to be in the position they were in through the vast majority of that time but they were rarely title contenders other than for the odd season (ie about the same as us in that sense) before Teeth Gilespie came along and turned them into real winners.  They are of course a massive club and anyone investing in them will no doubt have money to spend, but it will very much be done as a business and it's unlikely they will be of the Saudi/Abu Dhabi/Qatar level.  So they will be relying on the work of their manager and it's looking more and more like the Klopp 7 year cycle is a real thing that he has no real idea of how to break out of.  There's definitely a chance to break clear of them if we continue to build as we are.

Of course you're right in that we aren't going to have it all out own way.  Which is something I'm more than happy with tbh.  I'm not desperate to be Bayern winning the league at a trott every year.  I'd much rather we were competing in a league were there are a number of teams at the start of each season with a realistic chance of winning it.

[Craig 6682]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

No interested parties for the sale so far. I imagine Man United will go before Liverpool do, although I gather there's very little interest there either. The prices they're asking are crazy. If you just want a PL presence, you can do that for a lot less money than Liverpool and Man United are asking - see Bournemouth. You get a project rather than a finished article, but what you also get is a fan base appreciative of progress rather than one demanding immediate trophies when there's only 4 to share around each season. 

 

The money is a very valid point. I thought the money being asked for Chelsea was insane and was surprised it was met. 

There seems to be a thought process amongst the fans of the so-called established top 6 that their positions make them more attractive to would-be purchasers. If anything I think it makes them less attractive because the expectations of the fans would be absolutely off the scale immediately.

 

If you were an organisation looking to purchase an English football club, why on earth would you spunk stupid money on the likes of Man United or Liverpool? Surely a far more attractive proposition would be to buy someone like Villa, Everton, Forest or Leeds for a fraction of the cost and start a project. The 'entitled' mindset of the top clubs is arrogance on a ridiculous scale - hence their desire, and let's face it the ALL wanted it, to join a European Super League.

[Alex 35093]

Whoever buys Man Utd or Liverpool for the sort of prices being touted are likely to want their money back somehow. I’m not sure who would pay that and invest a load of extra money on players. There just aren’t buyers like that out there. 

[David Kelly 1245]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

 

The money is a very valid point. I thought the money being asked for Chelsea was insane and was surprised it was met. 

There seems to be a thought process amongst the fans of the so-called established top 6 that their positions make them more attractive to would-be purchasers. If anything I think it makes them less attractive because the expectations of the fans would be absolutely off the scale immediately.

 

If you were an organisation looking to purchase an English football club, why on earth would you spunk stupid money on the likes of Man United or Liverpool? Surely a far more attractive proposition would be to buy someone like Villa, Everton, Forest or Leeds for a fraction of the cost and start a project. The 'entitled' mindset of the top clubs is arrogance on a ridiculous scale - hence their desire, and let's face it the ALL wanted it, to join a European Super League.

The fact that clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea already have global appeal would surely make them an interesting purchase.  Yes you have to spend a lot to keep it going but the revenue streams that you have access to far surpasses us, Villa, Everton etc.  And if you're not interested in sports washing then revenue is what you will be looking at.

[Gemmill 44896]

2 minutes ago, Alex said:

Whoever buys Man Utd or Liverpool for the sort of prices being touted are likely to want their money back somehow. I’m not sure who would pay that and invest a load of extra money on players. There just aren’t buyers like that out there. 

 

The Liverpool fella on The Athletic podcast was saying something about how the only serious investors he's heard spoken about are VC types from America and they want a 35% return on their investment. Which is just impossible at the prices they're being asked to pay. 

[Craig 6682]

And surely after 2 rounds of American ownership, Liverpool will want to be steering well clear of a 3rd round. 

 

I can't remember the details, but wasn't the profit of Man Utd virtually wiped out overnight when the Glazers took them over? Using the clubs funds for serviceable debt? 

[Alex 35093]

5 minutes ago, Craig said:

And surely after 2 rounds of American ownership, Liverpool will want to be steering well clear of a 3rd round. 

 

I can't remember the details, but wasn't the profit of Man Utd virtually wiped out overnight when the Glazers took them over? Using the clubs funds for serviceable debt? 

Yeah. I don’t understand the ins and outs of it properly. But it was essentially bought using loans guaranteed against the club I believe. Mind, Man Utd fans made life difficult J P McManus and John Magnier,  previous part owners, protesting at race courses where their horses were running etc. wanting greater investment. A case of be careful what you wish for. 

[PaddockLad 17280]

Quite fuckin right too 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21924]

players? it was mainly the dickhead manager with the lego haircut

[wykikitoon 20155]

54 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Quite fuckin right too 

 

 

Marsch has already been done for it. Klopp next please then that's right. I don't see pep running down the touchline tbh

[wykikitoon 20155]

 

 

 

[aimaad22 4156]

Rattling them up nice and early!

 

Eddie 'the Rattlesheikh' Howe!

[ewerk 30619]

They don’t like it up ‘em!

[thebrokendoll 9239]

3 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

Quite fuckin right too 

 

 

 

in the last 2 games little old newcastle have clearly got under arteta and his players skin. they're like the north london equivalent of a jordan pickford.

completely confident we'll dick these cunts at our place this may too.

[Howay 12496]

 Aye, we’re so far under Arsenals skin it’s fucking brilliant. They will lose their heads completely at SJP, they should have had players sent off this past match I can definitely see it happening in the return fixture. We will then get to hear the brilliantly idiotic Arsenal TV interview more Arsenal fans who know fucking nothing about football. 
 

“yi get me fam? Ow is it that this side beat us? Ow is that? They is crap but when we play them we are rubbish it just makes no sense blud. You know what Arteta out fam eee can’t even beat noocarrsel”

[Craig 6682]

On 06/01/2023 at 16:19, PaddockLad said:

Quite fuckin right too 

 

 

 

Common theme here:

 

 

[wykikitoon 20155]

Teflon playmobil heed

[Renton 21627]

17 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Teflon playmobil heed

 

Ironically the way he fucking runs about screaming reminds me of when I barefoot step on one of the kids' lego people.

[PaddockLad 17280]

17 hours ago, Craig said:

 

Common theme here:

 

 

Tbf, they’ve taken it well

 

 

 

[Howmanheyman 33240]

21 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Tbf, they’ve taken it well

 

 

 

 

They also hated them when they opened their gobs and talked pure, unadulterated shite if that's any help to him?

[The Fish 10857]

I've never understood this idea that the FA, the Premier League are whomever would be 'out to get' one club. Especially one like Arsenal, that has been an entrenched member of the 'Top 2', the 'Top 4', the 'Big Six' for decades. 

 

Seen it from fans of all clubs, 'THEY' are out to get them. Fuck off man.