Rayvin 5891 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Just now, Dr Gloom said:  i dunno. we are a tiny part of the PIF portfolio but i don't buy the argument i've read online that they're losing interest because of the financial regulations. the club also just announced the appointment of a senior PIF bloke to the board of directors. i don't know how much you can read into that. a new super stadum would be more of a statement of intent. we can probably be reassured if they announce a new state-of-the-art ground on leazes park  I'm not saying they're losing interest tbh, just that we're not exactly their only iron in the fire. Their strategic objectives for the club will be more or less what they always were, but the fact that they've kept Howe around rather than going for a heavy hitter with more reputation is a pretty clear signal to me that they are tolerant of this being a gradual build project.  For my two cents the club -appears- to be a little directionless now considering boardroom departures and Eales' situation. I'm sure it's not, and I'm sure we get clarity and executive direction back soon... but still, we're not giving out the vibe of a club that is determined to push forward at all costs. Instead I think Howe is carrying the executive team atm to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23390 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Rayvin said:  I'm not saying they're losing interest tbh, just that we're not exactly their only iron in the fire.  well yeah, you're spot on with that. and i can see why people think we're not their biggest priority because it's patently the case. buying newcastle is a small piece of their project 2030 schtick though. they'll want us to be champions, playing regularly in the champions league and winning trophies by that time, i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4589 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 minute ago, Rayvin said: For my two cents the club -appears- to be a little directionless now considering boardroom departures and Eales' situation. I'm sure it's not, and I'm sure we get clarity and executive direction back soon... but still, we're not giving out the vibe of a club that is determined to push forward at all costs. Instead I think Howe is carrying the executive team atm to some extent.  Aye it does feel a little like that. The chaos in the summer showed we're not as well run as we thought and a lot of the decision making does seem to be very slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4589 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: lewandowski at barcelona is on 700k and turning 37 soon. Isak is probably on their radar.  I don't think Barca in their current financial situation will be buying 100M players anytime soon. Edited January 23 by aimaad22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36565 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Dougle describing a completely factual, practically unarguable post as one of the biggest fallacies in football raised a chuckle on a bit of a shitty day  3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11306 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 17 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:  Aye it does feel a little like that. The chaos in the summer showed we're not as well run as we thought and a lot of the decision making does seem to be very slow. To be fair, Eales and Ashworth's departures came kind of out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5891 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I may be in a minority in this but I remain a bit gutted about Ashworth. He may be a cunt but he's clearly a very talented one who has brought in some great players for us in the short time he was here. Real loss that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32864 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 How many successful signings were down to Ashworth? He himself admitted that recruitment wasn’t his specific field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36199 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, Rayvin said: I may be in a minority in this but I remain a bit gutted about Ashworth. He may be a cunt but he's clearly a very talented one who has brought in some great players for us in the short time he was here. Real loss that one.  Yet Man U sacked him after a couple of months and lost a few million on him. Strange isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5891 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:  Yet Man U sacked him after a couple of months and lost a few million on him. Strange isn't it?  I've put that down to Man Utd being a trainwreck of a club more than him. Like I'm not defending him at all, the guy is every bit the snake people are claiming... just thought he actually did pretty well at the same time. Which is a shame.  9 minutes ago, ewerk said: How many successful signings were down to Ashworth? He himself admitted that recruitment wasn’t his specific field.  Unless of course this is true, which would make me feel more confident. But then who is behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4589 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 55 minutes ago, The Fish said: To be fair, Eales and Ashworth's departures came kind of out of the blue.  Yeah those the club can't be blamed for, I was thinking more about the sudden Staveley departure and the PSR sales plus the touting of Gordon. While all that might have been necessary/inevitable it felt very rushed and out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5891 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, aimaad22 said:  Yeah those the club can't be blamed for, I was thinking more about the sudden Staveley departure and the PSR sales plus the touting of Gordon. While all that might have been necessary/inevitable it felt very rushed and out of the blue.  This is true, felt like someone at the club woke up and thought "fuck me, we're not compliant" 2 days before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23390 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 17 hours ago, Rayvin said:  I've put that down to Man Utd being a trainwreck of a club more than him. Like I'm not defending him at all, the guy is every bit the snake people are claiming... just thought he actually did pretty well at the same time. Which is a shame.   Unless of course this is true, which would make me feel more confident. But then who is behind it? If the rumours are to be believed it might have been Howe, who was acting as a traditional manager/dof with assistance from Amanda during the transfer windows before Ashworth arrived. And Howe’s reluctance to cede power prompted Ashworth’s departure and the management restructuring we saw last summer when Mitchell's arrival and Howe uttering rare public words of consternation. He’s usually the diplomat Edited January 24 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36199 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Rayvin said:  I've put that down to Man Utd being a trainwreck of a club more than him. Like I'm not defending him at all, the guy is every bit the snake people are claiming... just thought he actually did pretty well at the same time. Which is a shame.   Unless of course this is true, which would make me feel more confident. But then who is behind it?     ....but anyway, I think the train wreck theory is likely to be the most correct. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4589 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 18 minutes ago, Rayvin said:  This is true, felt like someone at the club woke up and thought "fuck me, we're not compliant" 2 days before the deadline.  Their accountants might of the same standard as Toontastic's. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11306 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 15 hours ago, aimaad22 said:  Yeah those the club can't be blamed for, I was thinking more about the sudden Staveley departure and the PSR sales plus the touting of Gordon. While all that might have been necessary/inevitable it felt very rushed and out of the blue.   To be fair I think that the sudden and unprecedented changes to the sponsorship rules brought in to stymie our progress would have caught the club off guard and meant we were forced into a selling position earlier than we would have liked/expected. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10156 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 dunno if this has already been posted elsewhere? anyway, if you want insight in to why the mackems hate downie so much and even feel a little sympathetic to their stance, watch him try to defend his mate mark mcadam here. the patronising sweaty cunt. Â Â 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36199 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 23 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: dunno if this has already been posted elsewhere? anyway, if you want insight in to why the mackems hate downie so much and even feel a little sympathetic to their stance, watch him try to defend his mate mark mcadam here. the patronising sweaty cunt. Â Â Â He's used to interacting with dip shits on twitter which probably explains his patronising, playschool patter, 'Hey guys, if you look through the round window you'll see my colleague, mark, was just speaking off the top of his head, there's no sky agenda guys!' fuck off, man. Â (I'm sure that'll have went down well with anyone of his managerial team or friends at sky who seen it on his twatter feed though). Edited January 29 by Howmanheyman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3666 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, thebrokendoll said: dunno if this has already been posted elsewhere? anyway, if you want insight in to why the mackems hate downie so much and even feel a little sympathetic to their stance, watch him try to defend his mate mark mcadam here. the patronising sweaty cunt.    I’ve read as many of the comments as I can be arsed to and not one single one accepting his bullshit. What a patronising joker. We have long memories mate. And you know the actual posting of this video is part of this sky agenda. Fuck Off man. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 440 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 When Guehi wins a header or makes a tackle do we ever get, "here's why Newcastle wanted him"?  Only real reason they had any need to mention Arsenal in that video would have been at the time, we were moving within 4 points of them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11506 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 26 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: When Guehi wins a header or makes a tackle do we ever get, "here's why Newcastle wanted him"?  Only real reason they had any need to mention Arsenal in that video would have been at the time, we were moving within 4 points of them. I am a little surprised that when Guehi does something homophobic with an armband Sky aren't pointing out that's why the Saudis wanted him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36199 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 "Hi guys, today if we look through the square window we have Gary Neville discussing what Rubin Amorim's options are and what impact has Sir Jim Ratcliffe had on getting 'United' back where they belong. In the round window we have Jamie Carragher taking a deep dive into what an amazing job Arne Slot has done in carrying on the fantastic legacy of the cuddly JĂĽrgen Klopp. In the rectangle window we have Paul Merson rambling incoherently about Alexander Isak going to the Arsenal and what a t'riffic move that would be for everyone involved but probably not noocarsull who 'eed then worry abaht if he's honest with ya. Anyone still here who supports Newcastle, guys, there's no agenda here at sky, we love all the teams and report on them all equally and fairly. If you go on our YouTube channel through the triangle window there's a YouTube podcaster asking Dan Burn and Sean Longstaff a few jokey questions for ten minutes because that's all you're good for and we haven't got time to put it on our actual sports channels. Love you, guys!" 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11506 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: "Hi guys, today if we look through the square window we have Gary Neville discussing what Rubin Amorim's options are and what impact has Sir Jim Ratcliffe had on getting 'United' back where they belong. In the round window we have Jamie Carragher taking a deep dive into what an amazing job Arne Slot has done in carrying on the fantastic legacy of the cuddly JĂĽrgen Klopp. In the rectangle window we have Paul Merson rambling incoherently about Alexander Isak going to the Arsenal and what a t'riffic move that would be for everyone involved but probably not noocarsull who 'eed then worry abaht if he's honest with ya. Anyone still here who supports Newcastle, guys, there's no agenda here at sky, we love all the teams and report on them all equally and fairly. If you go on our YouTube channel through the triangle window there's a YouTube podcaster asking Dan Burn and Sean Longstaff a few jokey questions for ten minutes because that's all you're good for and we haven't got time to put it on our actual sports channels. Love you, guys!" Remember when they made a huge thing about Burn and Fraser coming out the tunnel together every game because one was tall and the other was a midget? They sat them down for a massively important discussion about it and not once asked them about the turnaround in performances that led us away from relegation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18828 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 No one in the football media is willing to admit that they consider Arsenal to be more entitled to a player of Isak’s quality than Newcastle are.  They can say they’re just repeating what Arsenal fans are saying with a degree of justification but they know deep down it’s about that word;  “entitled” … Arsenal are entitled to have world class footballers in a way Newcastle  aren’t . And if Newcastle just luck upon someone of that quality they must immediately be sold to the likes of Arsenal. That’s just the world they live in and it’s killing them all, media and fans alike, that it’s not the case this time round. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10156 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 46 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: No one in the football media is willing to admit that they consider Arsenal to be more entitled to a player of Isak’s quality than Newcastle are.  They can say they’re just repeating what Arsenal fans are saying with a degree of justification but they know deep down it’s about that word;  “entitled” … Arsenal are entitled to have world class footballers in a way Newcastle  aren’t . And if Newcastle just luck upon someone of that quality they must immediately be sold to the likes of Arsenal. That’s just the world they live in and it’s killing them all, media and fans alike, that it’s not the case this time round.  guimaraes broke them. isak has smashed the cunts to pieces. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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