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The flaccidity of this final day is terrible, the premier league will need to get some new writers in over the summer.

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2 minutes ago, OTF said:

The flaccidity of this final day is terrible, the premier league will need to get some new writers in over the summer.

 

Aye. The price of sending a happy smiley family club to do a man's job. Even Spurs would have beat Everton today, that's how bad Bournemouth were.

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Just now, wykikitoon said:

Leicester playing safe v us really helped them didn't it

 

Aye the number of pundits I've heard this week talk about how that could be a really important point, like going into the final day 2 points short of safety was some kind of masterplan.

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23 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Aye the number of pundits I've heard this week talk about how that could be a really important point, like going into the final day 2 points short of safety was some kind of masterplan.

 

They did almost win it at the end though. If Pope doesn't make that save, the whole gameplan would be lauded as a masterstroke. If they'd opened up and played us properly, they would have lost by 2 or 3 goals IMO.

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11 hours ago, Rayvin said:

 

They did almost win it at the end though. If Pope doesn't make that save, the whole gameplan would be lauded as a masterstroke. If they'd opened up and played us properly, they would have lost by 2 or 3 goals IMO.

It would’ve but that would’ve been 20/20 hindsight (which I suppose this is too :lol: ). There’s a middle ground where you stay in the game then go for it earlier. They’d have been incredibly lucky if the gameplay had worked with them scoring at the death with their sole attempt on goal I think it was. Especially in a game where we’d missed loads of chances and hit the woodwork on numerous occasions. They were in a position where it was very difficult for them to stay up but I think you’ve got to try and make things happen in that situation. I.e. not just relying on Everton dropping points at home against a Bournemouth side with no skin in the game. As others have said though it’s all very well replacing and blaming Rogers but it’s fucking pointless if you’re replacing him with Dean Smith. A little bit like Leeds. By all means change the manager but don’t do it that late and don’t bring in a fucking dinosaur / fraud like Allardyce  

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I don't think trying not to lose away at a CL chasing team was the reason they've gone down. Gifting 4pts to each of the other two teams legitimately in the Relegation fight could be one reason, letting Southampton do the double over you is another. 

 

Maddison missing a penalty against Everton at 2-1 going into the half time break, was worse than only getting a point away to Newcastle.

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On 28/05/2023 at 14:45, Rayvin said:

 

They did almost win it at the end though. If Pope doesn't make that save, the whole gameplan would be lauded as a masterstroke. If they'd opened up and played us properly, they would have lost by 2 or 3 goals IMO.

Agreed, I’ve seen it from a few pundits now as well as the YouTube crew about how leicester should have given it a go against us but if they did we’d have fucking smacked them as you say. Our attackers work well when there is space, they struggle when the pitch is condensed and teams sit back, so if Leicester tried to come at us we’d have had a ton of space. I think the pundits are also forgetting that Leicester are shite and we dominated the ball - if that was Liverpool rather than us they’d not have been saying this. 

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5 minutes ago, Howay said:

Agreed, I’ve seen it from a few pundits now as well as the YouTube crew about how leicester should have given it a go against us but if they did we’d have fucking smacked them as you say. Our attackers work well when there is space, they struggle when the pitch is condensed and teams sit back, so if Leicester tried to come at us we’d have had a ton of space. I think the pundits are also forgetting that Leicester are shite and we dominated the ball - if that was Liverpool rather than us they’d not have been saying this. 

Even in the second half, when they introduced Maddison and their other more talented attacking players, we had more dangerous phases of play.

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To be honest, it was Everton's 5-1 demolition of Brighton that kept them up. So, really, Brighton should be docked points for being enemies of football.

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I did not know that Smalling played for Roma.

 

It's a depressing feature of today's game that you can no longer believe the frantic arm wave when a player goes down. That used to be a cast iron guarantee of a really bad injury, now it's usually just some cunt wanting a lie down.

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1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

I did not know that Smalling played for Roma.

 

It's a depressing feature of today's game that you can no longer believe the frantic arm wave when a player goes down. That used to be a cast iron guarantee of a really bad injury, now it's usually just some cunt wanting a lie down.

Smalling has been there a few seasons now I think 

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It was nice to see him get precisely what his tactics and pitch side antics deserved last night mind. Playing for penalties for more than half the match (including extra time). And him and his bench contesting practically every (even minor) decision like one of their players had been chopped in half by waist-high tackle. 

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11 hours ago, Gemmill said:

I did not know that Smalling played for Roma.

 

It's a depressing feature of today's game that you can no longer believe the frantic arm wave when a player goes down. That used to be a cast iron guarantee of a really bad injury, now it's usually just some cunt wanting a lie down.


141 games for them over 4 seasons. Easy missed 

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1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:


141 games for them over 4 seasons. Easy missed 

On the evidence of last night he’s still a good defender and better than a certain England international still at Man Utd 

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I don't know what he's moaning about. It went to penalties and they got beat. The penalty incident he's talking about did look like a pen in real time, but it wasn't and it got overturned.

 

The disgrace was the match. It was fucking awful.

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1 hour ago, Alex said:

On the evidence of last night he’s still a good defender and better than a certain England international still at Man Utd 


Mad that players like Maguire, Dunk and Mings get in ahead of Smalling and Tomori. Top 6 Serie A players with plenty of CL/EL experience. 

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17 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:


Mad that players like Maguire, Dunk and Mings get in ahead of Smalling and Tomori. Top 6 Serie A players with plenty of CL/EL experience. 

And that's one of the reasons that good English players don't test themselves overseas when they should. 

 

That and the fact that a second language is difficult when you can't even speak your first language, of course.

 

tonight show nbc GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

 

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20 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

I don't know what he's moaning about. It went to penalties and they got beat. The penalty incident he's talking about did look like a pen in real time, but it wasn't and it got overturned.

 

The disgrace was the match. It was fucking awful.

He comes across as a pissed up parody of his former self these days. I know those comments about Spurs / Levy were funny (because it’s Spurs), but he only said it because he was a failure there. It’s always someone else’s fault 

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4 hours ago, Alex said:

He comes across as a pissed up parody of his former self these days. I know those comments about Spurs / Levy were funny (because it’s Spurs), but he only said it because he was a failure there. It’s always someone else’s fault 

angry kid GIF

Basically 

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