2024/25 - Generic NUFC Chat. Cunts ☑️

[Gemmill 49967]

Spurs fans were chanting for Levy Out today and Davison Sanchez had to be subbed off cos his own fans were booing every time he touched the ball.

 

All is not well with that lot, if we can get an early goal and the crowd is up for it, they might fully buckle.

 

Either way, they don't look like putting a run together to end the season on a high.

[Gemmill 49967]

Wait Sanchez was subbed ON at the 35 minute mark and lasted TWENTY THREE minutes before having to be subbed OFF on 58 minutes.

 

Anthony Gordon would have knocked Stellini clean out if he'd done that to him.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

17 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Spurs fans were chanting for Levy Out today and Davison Sanchez had to be subbed off cos his own fans were booing every time he touched the ball.

 

All is not well with that lot, if we can get an early goal and the crowd is up for it, they might fully buckle.

 

Either way, they don't look like putting a run together to end the season on a high.

Brighton have looked more of a concern for a while to me. They were robbed against spurs last week. Reckon they’re the real deal and will run us close. The good thing is we play both spurs and Brighton at home. Win those two and we’ve pretty much got champions league  

[Gemmill 49967]

They're effectively 8 points behind with one game in hand. They're gonna have to put on an incredible run to overhaul is.

 

 

Three games in a week coming up to get them good and knackered. Them and Man United drawing in the cup would be canny to get more fixtures in for the pair of them.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

16 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

They're effectively 8 points behind with one game in hand. They're gonna have to put on an incredible run to overhaul is.

 

 

Three games in a week coming up to get them good and knackered. Them and Man United drawing in the cup would be canny to get more fixtures in for the pair of them.

have you watched them play recently? They’re very good 

[Gemmill 49967]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

Opta's equivalent. They give us about a 12% chance of finishing outside the top 4.

 

For this Opta graphic, they run the remaining matches through their model 100,000 times.

 

Which means that on 12,000 of those simulations we finished outside the top 4. Seems a lot doesn't it.

 

We just have to hope we aren't about to live out one of those 12,000 simulations.

 

It could be worse though, the simulations have Arsenal blowing the league on 55,000 of the 100,000 simulations.

 

[aimaad22 4690]

That's the beauty of football and sport though isn't it, come the last few games it could be confidence, momentum, bad luck with injuries etc. that could be the deciding factor. 

 

Agree with gloomy on Brighton. Incredibly well run outfit, play good attacking football and can beat anyone on their day. More worried about them than Spurs, as they're well...Spurs. If we beat them next week that could be that for them. 

[The Fish 11322]

18 hours ago, aimaad22 said:

That's the beauty of football and sport though isn't it, come the last few games it could be confidence, momentum, bad luck with injuries etc. that could be the deciding factor. 

 

Agree with gloomy on Brighton. Incredibly well run outfit, play good attacking football and can beat anyone on their day. More worried about them than Spurs, as they're well...Spurs. If we beat them next week that could be that for them. 

Brighton are definitely more of a threat to us than Spurs are. Spurs are passive, disjointed and they don't look fit, however they do have some exceptional players who can dig them out of trouble from a femto-chance.

 

Brighton, by contrast, are hard-pressing, cohesive and fit as they come. They also have some exceptional players, Mitoma chief amongst them. Trippier would have to be on his game to pocket the lad. 

 

I think we've a comparatively easy run in, and this Villa result came at the right time, imo. Should give the boys a rocket up their collective nipsy. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14671]

It’s vital that we get a result off Brighton whenever it is we play them. Could be a midweek game sandwiched in between Arsenal and Leeds if they reach the FA Cup final…

[Howay 12496]

6 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

It’s vital that we get a result off Brighton whenever it is we play them. Could be a midweek game sandwiched in between Arsenal and Leeds if they reach the FA Cup final…

Aye, the fact we are at home against both Spurs and Brighton really puts qualification in our hands. I think we actually stand a decent chance at doing well against Arsenal too as we seem to be in their heads a bit and the pressure is also getting to them now. 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

Our remaining fixtures:

5 home games:

Spurs, Southampton, Arsenal, Leicester & Brighton. 

 

3 away games:

Everton, Leeds & Chelsea 

 

We’re on 56 points. What do we need? Another 14? The consensus is 70 points  usually guarantees top 4.

Beat Spurs, Southampton, Leicester, Leeds. Plus a couple of draws.
 

Feels like we’re almost there if we can forget about the no show at Villa and beat spurs on Sunday. 
 

The only anxiety is if that Villa performance weighs on the players and they carry it into the next game. Lose to spurs and the momentum for the run in shifts massively. 

 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14671]

I reckon 4 wins and a couple of draws from the last 8 would see us in at a canter tbh. Especially if 6 of those points are from Spurs and Brighton. If it goes to the last day, Chelsea away is arguably the ideal match. They’re a total shambles

[Gemmill 49967]

I reckon 66 points will probably end up being enough. Maybe 68.

[Howmanheyman 36598]

That Warnock kid on sky thinks we've got a hard run in for the top 4 saying a couple of times we've still got Arsenal and Man City to play. Obviously both times nobody corrected him. 

[Gemmill 49967]

2 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

That Warnock kid on sky thinks we've got a hard run in for the top 4 saying a couple of times we've still got Arsenal and Man City to play. Obviously both times nobody corrected him. 

 

Him and that stupid lass agreeing that "Yeah villa can catch Newcastle for Champions League" for no other reason than mathematically it's possible.

 

Fuck sake is that really the question you're being asked?

[Dr Gloom 23642]

12 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Him and that stupid lass agreeing that "Yeah villa can catch Newcastle for Champions League" for no other reason than mathematically it's possible.

 

Fuck sake is that really the question you're being asked?

 

If i was a villa fan, i'd be starting to dream after the weekend. they're on a charge 

Edited April 18, 2023 by Dr Gloom

[Dougle 3677]

5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

I was a villa fan, i'd be starting to dream after the weekend. they're on a charge 

 

And how long ago did you convert?

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4269]

6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

I was a villa fan, i'd be starting to dream after the weekend. they're on a charge 

Glad you said that Gloomy mate cos that's thm fucked now.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Dougle said:

 

And how long ago did you convert?

 

edited 

[ewerk 33222]

2 minutes ago, Dougle said:

 

And how long ago did you convert?

 

 

Just after he stopped being a West Ham fan.

 

#gloomisatory

[Gemmill 49967]

12 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

If i was a villa fan, i'd be starting to dream after the weekend. they're on a charge 

 

Brentford (a)

Man United (a)

Wolves (a) - it's a derby, which does weird things

Liverpool (a)

Brighton (h)

 

Nee chance.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

Brentford (a)

Man United (a)

Wolves (a) - it's a derby, which does weird things

Liverpool (a)

Brighton (h)

 

Nee chance.

 

it looks tough on paper but they're on a mad run of form: 7 wins and a draw from their last 8 games 

[The Fish 11322]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

it looks tough on paper but they're on a mad run of form: 7 wins and a draw from their last 8 games 

Villa are on an unbelievable run of form, but it's a run of form. 

 

Watkins is over-performing given the chances that fall to him and their defence is benefiting from profligacy of the opponent. They were 100% the better side against us, but like I said in the match thread, this was as much to do with us being utterly garbage, as it was to do with them being good. 

 

They'll have a game where Watkins' finishing doesn't cut the muster and a game where the opponent is more clinical. If a team can sit deep against them Watkins won't have half as many chances, and Konsa and Mings are not fast. Villa may come unstuck against Wolves and Fulham. Never mind Man Utd, Brighton, and Liverpool.

[MrBass 3045]

1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said:

Our remaining fixtures:

5 home games:

Spurs, Southampton, Arsenal, Leicester & Brighton. 

 

3 away games:

Everton, Leeds & Chelsea 

 

We’re on 56 points. What do we need? Another 14? The consensus is 70 points  usually guarantees top 4.

Beat Spurs, Southampton, Leicester, Leeds. Plus a couple of draws.
 

Feels like we’re almost there if we can forget about the no show at Villa and beat spurs on Sunday. 
 

The only anxiety is if that Villa performance weighs on the players and they carry it into the next game. Lose to spurs and the momentum for the run in shifts massively. 

 

 

5 wins and a draw will guarantee us finishing above Liverpool who, I suspect, will finish 5th.

[PaddockLad 19013]

19 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Villa are on an unbelievable run of form, but it's a run of form. 

 

Watkins is over-performing given the chances that fall to him and their defence is benefiting from profligacy of the opponent. They were 100% the better side against us, but like I said in the match thread, this was as much to do with us being utterly garbage, as it was to do with them being good. 

 

They'll have a game where Watkins' finishing doesn't cut the muster and a game where the opponent is more clinical. If a team can sit deep against them Watkins won't have half as many chances, and Konsa and Mings are not fast. Villa may come unstuck against Wolves and Fulham. Never mind Man Utd, Brighton, and Liverpool.

You and Gemmill talk about this Villa “run” . 
 

How is it different to the good run of form we had after January last season, October /November this season and March/April this season?  Strikes me that if a team is in a good run of form it will come to an end at some point regardless of who the club actually is, which appears to be the distinction you’re making here. Are you saying our good form at various points is built on rock solid foundations and any blips are just that and that Villa are just fuckin lucky?  Or are you saying that we’re PiF’s Newcastle United and we’re just better than Villa in every single facet of the sport, except for actually playing the game of football itself going by the last set of available data ie last Saturday between 3 & 5 pm?