Gemmill 49749 Posted Wednesday at 11:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:07 You're still TODAY trying to claim that it's all fine and no one could have foreseen problems. Lay down your clipboard and take the loss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 11:08 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:08 34 minutes ago, ewerk said: At the start of the season we had six players capable of playing CB with two positions available. But aye, we should have gone all out for that seventh CB. Who were they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33122 Posted Wednesday at 11:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:10 2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Who were they? Come on now, give it a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33122 Posted Wednesday at 11:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:12 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: You're still TODAY trying to claim that it's all fine and no one could have foreseen problems. Lay down your clipboard and take the loss. How many sides carry more than six CBs into a season? It has been a series of unfortunate events that have led us to this situation. The first being your father getting that feeling in his pants. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7311 Posted Wednesday at 11:12 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:12 This song just popped into my head for some reason. www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKORcr1jhY&pp=ygUSR29lZG9uIGlzIGEgbW9yb24g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49749 Posted Wednesday at 11:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:14 1 minute ago, ewerk said: How many sides carry more than six CBs into a season? It has been a series of unfortunate events that have led us to this situation. The first being your father getting that feeling in his pants. "Nobody could have predicted this situation!" *quotes post from 1st December* "Nobody could have predicted this situation prior to December!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33122 Posted Wednesday at 11:18 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:18 We were never buying anyone in January bar a massive injury crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49749 Posted Wednesday at 11:20 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 11:25 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:25 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: Come on now, give it a go. CB we had were; Schar Burn Kelly Long Term Injuries Lascelles Botman I am not counting Krafth in that list as he's not a CB. He can cover there but he's not a CB. So we had 3 fit CB's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7546 Posted Wednesday at 11:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:43 And at RW we have 1 specialised player: Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 11:44 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:44 Just now, Holden McGroin said: And at RW we have 1 specialised player: Murphy. Start of the season, We had Murphy and Miggy. Come on, do keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23576 Posted Wednesday at 11:45 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:45 Krafth hasn't let us down at CB, or RB since the takeover. At the start of the season we had four CBs to cover two positions, if you count Krafth, plus two coming back from injury. We also had the kid Alex Murphy who could have been used in an injury crisis, who went on loan to Bolton in January. It is an area of the squad that needs to be improved but it isn't the weakest area. Botman is an elite centre half. At the start of the season we had two Rafa signings to compete for RW, neither of whom have been anywhere near elite. Now we have one. I thought Gordon or Barnes might do a job there but neither seems willing or able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49749 Posted Wednesday at 11:50 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:50 Let's see where the crisis in the team is vs Liverpool at Wembley. I'm gonna go ahead and predict that we might get shown up more at the back than at RW. Howe knew that, it's why he tried to fix it, but even now in the face of a crisis at CB, some of you just won't give it up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 11:59 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 11:59 Just now, Dr Gloom said: Krafth hasn't let us down at CB, or RB since the takeover. At the start of the season we had four CBs to cover two positions, if you count Krafth, plus two coming back from injury. We also had the kid Alex Murphy who could have been used in an injury crisis, who went on loan to Bolton in January. It is an area of the squad that needs to be improved but it isn't the weakest area. Botman is an elite centre half. At the start of the season we had two Rafa signings to compete for RW, neither of whom have been anywhere near elite. Now we have one. I thought Gordon or Barnes might do a job there but neither seems willing or able. I'm not going into this argument again, but if Murphy was all that Howe wouldn't have let him go on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23576 Posted Wednesday at 12:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:04 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Let's see where the crisis in the team is vs Liverpool at Wembley. I'm gonna go ahead and predict that we might get shown up more at the back than at RW. Howe knew that, it's why he tried to fix it, but even now in the face of a crisis at CB, some of you just won't give it up. Murphy for motm then? Schar, Botman and Burn were unbelievable in the game against arsenal when we went to five at the back. Schar’s form has gone down the shitter since then but you have to hope they can play to that level again. Jacob Murphy will always be Jacob Murphy. Great lad. Always busts a gut but really a squad rotation option at best - the RW equivalent of Krafth let’s say. The difference being he’s been first choice RW for most of the season instead of a bench player. I don’t disagree that we’re light at centre back btw. I understand why we cashed in on Miggy and Kelly in January but the failure to bring loan signings to cover the gaps in both positions in the squad has left us with zero depth going to into the final. Villa rolled the dice on two loans and it seems to have paid off for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23576 Posted Wednesday at 12:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:05 5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I'm not going into this argument again, but if Murphy was all that Howe wouldn't have let him go on loan. the point is we had numbers and some quality in that position at the start of the season. At RW we had Miggy and Murphy. Now we have only murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23576 Posted Wednesday at 12:05 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:05 Not getting into it again btw You were the one who went fishing for bites 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49749 Posted Wednesday at 12:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:06 Just now, Dr Gloom said: Not getting into it again btw You were the one who went fishing for bites The little cunt has done us all up like a kipper. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11329 Posted Wednesday at 12:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:07 It's a fucking cult, a right wing cult. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7546 Posted Wednesday at 12:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:07 Just now, Toonpack said: It's a fucking cult, a right wing cult. MRWGA 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4350 Posted Wednesday at 12:13 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:13 5 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: MRWGA Miggy really was good actually? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7546 Posted Wednesday at 12:17 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:17 28 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Start of the season, We had Murphy and Miggy. Come on, do keep up. To be honest I’ve skim read half of the argument again. Saves me from jamming two pencils up my nostrils. Aren’t we discussing how we don’t have 3 CBs available for the final? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 12:19 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 12:19 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the point is we had numbers and some quality in that position at the start of the season. At RW we had Miggy and Murphy. Now we have only murphy. At the start of the season we didn't have depth and quality in that position at all with two out with long term injury. We didn't have a clue what condition Botman would come back in either. We know Howe likes to bed his players in before starting them so Kelly wasn't really classed as depth was he? He played ONE 90 minute game for us yet you think Murphy, a fucking bairn can be included in that conversation about DEPTH and QUALITY? We are all in agreement we need both area's upgrading, but the more crucial position if we were only going to strengthen one area in summer IMO was CB. But not only in my opinion but also *CHECK NOTES* THE GAFFER & CLUB when they went after Guhei a ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL CB and not *CHECKS NOTES AGAIN* A FUCKING RW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22746 Posted Wednesday at 12:21 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 12:21 13 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The little cunt has done us all up like a kipper. Hook line and sinker. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1334 Posted Wednesday at 12:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 12:23 32 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Let's see where the crisis in the team is vs Liverpool at Wembley. I'm gonna go ahead and predict that we might get shown up more at the back than at RW. Howe knew that, it's why he tried to fix it, but even now in the face of a crisis at CB, some of you just won't give it up. If the latest rumours are true, it might be at Centre Forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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