2024/25 - Generic NUFC Chat. Cunts ☑️

[ackas 311]

22 minutes ago, Andrew said:

They really are in their own little "we're man united" ego fuelled bubble aren't they? Ratcliffes statement made no fucking sense, that comparison to pep was actual nonsense  like anyone in football just lets their players wander off for free when they don't want to be at the club anymore. 

 

His very own Man United wouldn't even sack Mason Greenwood because they thought they could get a fee for him somewhere down the line the cunts.

 

"We had a very grown-up conversation with Manchester City about Omar"

Why didn't you do that with us then you dickhead? Instead you contacted Ashworth and fluttered your eyelashes at him through your media mates and now want to act all precious when we turn around and tell you that thats actually not acceptable and we'll either have our fee or you can wait.

 

Their fans keep going on about this being "small time" which makes no sense either, surely the small time thing would be for us to bend over "oh yes mr man united please, please take the technical director we hired less than two years ago, would you like anything else sir"

 

Its either that or "This is exactly what they did to brighton". No, we approached Brighton first, who gave us permission to talk to Ashworth then placed him on gardening leave until a deal was made. Which is how this should have been done. 

 

I'd started hating Man U less over the last few years, they were more of a laughing stock than anything else, but the sheer ENTITLEMENT of everyone on their side over this, pure brexit-style british exceptionalism has reminded me how much I despise that club.

 

I think our best move would be to just leave him on gardening leave until 2026.

Fuck Ratcliffe, Fuck Ashworth and Fuck their fucking awful fans

[Dazzler 11853]

"that's not how the law works"

 

Aye it is mate, contractual law in fact. Although it was a pleasant surprise to hear Man City give away the players they don't want and haven't made half a billion quid doing so since Pep came in.

 

It always fucking staggers me how inexplicably stupid some billionaires are.

[aimaad22 4691]

48 minutes ago, ackas said:

 

I think our best move would be to just leave him on gardening leave until 2026.

Fuck Ratcliffe, Fuck Ashworth and Fuck their fucking awful fans

 

Nah make them pay $20M and spend an additional 100M on players in the summer. Increase chances of beating them to a CL finish next season. I've not read anywhere that the compensation shouldn't count for FFP. It should be in the P&L as other income or something. 

[Dr Gloom 23649]

4 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

I'm absolutely thrilled to report that Sir Jim Ratcliffe is very much adopting a "GUYS! We're Manchester United. Just hand him over." approach. I'm sure this will endear him to our lot.

 

"I won't get dragged into that, but first allow me to get dragged into that."

 

Cunt.

 

[Dr Gloom 23649]

The best approach is to just ignore it. I hope the club don’t engage. Don’t make a public reply to his petty nonsense. Just tell them what the fee is and let Ashworth rot on gardening leave until they pay the price. 

[toonotl 3438]

ManU's approach to this situation reveals a subconscious insecurity about themselves. If they figured they were still this massive club above us and everyone else like they suggested with the rhetoric then they would have had no trouble coming to the club and striking a deal for Ashworth. The fact that they have gone to the media to big note themselves and try to represent our completely normal and reasonable request for compensation for someone under contract as somehow unrealistic speaks to the level of concern they have about our progress and the lack of self-awareness they have for their own situation.

 

I can't see how this doesn't blow up in their faces. I'm not an expert by any means but I would've thought that publicly insulting the other party is probably viewed as a rather ineffectual opening negotiating tactic by at least some experts.  Unfortunately for ManU I believe that things like contractual law deals with pesky items like reality and facts and not the death rattles of an old dinosaur's delusions of grandeur.

 

I'd be happy with 10m from this situation. And I'm sure the club would be too. But ManU's approach could result in them having to pay 20m in order to save face. They simply can't walk away from this deal now. And they equally can't go two years without a DoF. If I were Ashworth, I'd have reservations already about going over there based purely on the way they've managed the situation of his attempted hiring. You might argue that he is being sought to take up a position that would make this sort of carry on a thing of the past. But something tells me that there is a distinct lack of self-awareness permeating ManU and Dan Ashworth is seen as an ornamentation to their vanity without an appreciation for what he actually does.

 

[wykikitoon 22921]

9 hours ago, Dazzler said:

"that's not how the law works"

 

Aye it is mate, contractual law in fact. Although it was a pleasant surprise to hear Man City give away the players they don't want and haven't made half a billion quid doing so since Pep came in.

 

It always fucking staggers me how inexplicably stupid some billionaires are.

It always staggers me how they're never challenged by the cunts interviewing them. 

[Dazzler 11853]

12 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

It always staggers me how they're never challenged by the cunts interviewing them. 

Because it generates better content to let thick cunts like Ratcliffe prattle on. They give him just enough rope to hang himself. Challenging him would have given him a chance to backtrack. It's much funnier the way it played out.

[Alex 36740]

The other thing in all this is that, as per fucking usual, Man Utd, its fans, media arselickers etc. are totally oblivious to how much everyone else hates them. 

Edited February 22, 2024 by Alex

[Alex 36740]

Brailsford reminds me a bit of the whole Clive Woodward thing. Where after England won the rugby World Cup he thought he could do the same in any sport. I think it subsequently emerged that England team ran itself anyway, with the senior players like Dallaglio, Johnson and Dawson really being in charge. Woodward then took over the Lions unsuccessfully before a spell in a nebulous DoF role at Southampton FC. He’s mates with covid-cunt Rupert Lowe apparently. Where he did nothing of note because he knows sweet fanny adams about football. He’s had the odd ‘executive’ role since, but that’s it. I bet they both do an amazing PowerPoint presentation though

Edited February 22, 2024 by Alex

[wykikitoon 22921]

Brailsford is a fucking bully.  An absolute cunt of a man who surrounded himself with like minded cunts at BC.  So no wonder he gets on well with Ratcliffe.

[Holden McGroin 7638]

22 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Brailsford is a fucking bully.  An absolute cunt of a man who surrounded himself with like minded cunts at BC.  So no wonder he gets on well with Ratcliffe.

Wykiki finally justified in getting rage at someone. 
 

[MrBass 3045]

Can we start referring to this cunt with his full name please? I have the misfortune of sharing the same surname as this arsehole. 

[Meenzer 16447]

OK fine, Wykiki Toon it is.

 

[Gemmill 50017]

Listening to Kieran Maguire, he reckons per conversations he's had with employment lawyers, anything in excess of 12 months gardening leave becomes hard to enforce and can be challenged. Which would still keep daft lad out of commission for the next two transfer windows.

[MrBass 3045]

47 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

OK fine, Wykiki Toon it is.

 

 

I was going to do an edit to state that I meant Jim Sutcliffe and not Wykiki to avoid confusion.

[MrBass 3045]

30 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Listening to Kieran Maguire, he reckons per conversations he's had with employment lawyers, anything in excess of 12 months gardening leave becomes hard to enforce and can be challenged. Which would still keep daft lad out of commission for the next two transfer windows.

 

PIF lawyers be like,

[wykikitoon 22921]

10 minutes ago, MrBass said:

 

I was going to do an edit to state that I meant Jim Sutcliffe and not Wykiki to avoid confusion.

OK Peter

[ewerk 33236]

42 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Listening to Kieran Maguire, he reckons per conversations he's had with employment lawyers, anything in excess of 12 months gardening leave becomes hard to enforce and can be challenged. Which would still keep daft lad out of commission for the next two transfer windows.

 

From the little I remember from law school the period of gardening leave must be proportionate based on things such as the level of the role, industry and risk that they could carry commercially sensitive information. Given that Ashworth knows all the ins and out of the club and our plan for at least the next two years I think there's every chance that he could be forced out of the game for 18 months.

[Dr Gloom 23649]

4 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

From the little I remember from law school 

 

 

[Dr Gloom 23649]

i didn't realise we had a so-called lawyer to go with our so-called accountant 

 

[Dr Gloom 23649]

and the less said about our so-called journalist, the better 

[Alex 36740]

50 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Listening to Kieran Maguire, he reckons per conversations he's had with employment lawyers, anything in excess of 12 months gardening leave becomes hard to enforce and can be challenged. Which would still keep daft lad out of commission for the next two transfer windows.

Let him take the club to court after that 12 months and see how that plays out

[RobElliott 1807]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

i didn't realise we had a so-called lawyer to go with our so-called accountant 

 

 

When he says law school, what he means was his day in court for flashing in the park at a couple of old women

[RobinRobin 12501]

11 minutes ago, ewerk said:

 

From the little I remember from law school the period of gardening leave must be proportionate based on things such as the level of the role, industry and risk that they could carry commercially sensitive information. Given that Ashworth knows all the ins and out of the club and our plan for at least the next two years I think there's every chance that he could be forced out of the game for 18 months.

And how much he is being paid.