Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Aye, Brighton aren't the only club in world football that was well run. We'll get someone in and hopefully trouser some cash from Man United. It's definitely not ideal cos the new man will have different ideas/possibly want some people replaced, but that's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4568 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Does the nature of the job mean that gardening leave is prone to be abused? How would you prove that he wasn't directing things in a low key manner - maybe that's why they're supposedly relaxed about the waiting period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 In one of the responses to this he says that he's been told that our negotiating start point is actually north of £20m. Not expecting them to pay that, but it is going to be "a very expensive appointment" for them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 I'd like to see us keep him locked out of transfer activity til summer 2025 tbh. Also I'd make him ask to be excused every time he needs the toilet. That one runs to Jan 2026. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11323 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, NJS said: Does the nature of the job mean that gardening leave is prone to be abused? How would you prove that he wasn't directing things in a low key manner - maybe that's why they're supposedly relaxed about the waiting period. I guess you'd have to monitor appointments and transfers. Should someone on our RADAR suddenly appear at Old Trafford, we'd be within our rights to get them to show their working. Plus I'd imagine there's a lot of gossiping so if Ashworth is up to anything the players, agents, scouts would be chatting to eachother about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11323 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Just now, Gemmill said: I'd like to see us keep him locked out of transfer activity til summer 2025 tbh. Also I'd make him ask to be excused every time he needs the toilet. That one runs to Jan 2026. Insist he sits as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, NJS said: Does the nature of the job mean that gardening leave is prone to be abused? How would you prove that he wasn't directing things in a low key manner - maybe that's why they're supposedly relaxed about the waiting period. Aye definitely prone to abuse, but football is so fucking leaky that you'd have to think it would probably get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22923 Posted February 19, 2024 Author Share Posted February 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, Gemmill said: In one of the responses to this he says that he's been told that our negotiating start point is actually north of £20m. Not expecting them to pay that, but it is going to be "a very expensive appointment" for them. Offff '25 is still a long way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5153 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Quote That said, respect works both ways. If Newcastle continue to take the piss with their valuation then we have every right to make life more difficult for them too. Hopefully common sense will prevail and both teams will come to an acceptable compromise. The IRONY Respect chat from the cunts who are trying to poach our staff and have been briefing their mates in the media since before they were in charge that they wanted to do it. As for making life more difficult for us...how exactly? We have the thing they want, and we have a price. These spoiled cunts just don't understand not being rolled over for. Its the same when a player is moving, the press and clubs talking about Declan Rice last year was a case study of it. Completely taken for granted by all involved that West Ham were simply going to give him up for nowt and then actual offence taken when they demanded their price. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12501 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 3 hours ago, aimaad22 said: If the fat one was still running things Ashworth would be having a cup of tea at Old Trafford right now. He'd have taken him there in his helicopter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5153 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Quote I think Newcastle's FFP is worse than ours, they cannot afford to stretch this out as much. This is just a hunch though, I can imagine the snapdragon sponsorship & Ratcliff's investment boosts our FFP, together with some very sellable assets in the window. More not understanding the rules. Do these idiots not realise that if owner investment boosted FFP then WE HAVE THE RICHEST OWNERS IN FOOTBALL. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12501 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Andrew said: More not understanding the rules. Do these idiots not realise that if owner investment boosted FFP then WE HAVE THE RICHEST OWNERS IN FOOTBALL. Sellable assets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11323 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, Andrew said: More not understanding the rules. Do these idiots not realise that if owner investment boosted FFP then WE HAVE THE RICHEST OWNERS IN FOOTBALL. Are directors' salaries related to PSR? I thought they weren't, so we could pay £100m to break a contract and it'd come straight from the back pocket of the Saudis, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36744 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 2 hours ago, RobinRobin said: Sellable assets Aye players who’ve failed on massive wages and long contracts are a doddle to offload 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33241 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 @wykikitoon Talksport have Pardew and Souness on discussing Newcastle if you want to bring on your inevitable massive coronary. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 11882 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 1 hour ago, ewerk said: @wykikitoon Talksport have Pardew and Souness on discussing Newcastle if you want to bring on your inevitable massive coronary. My guess (because I'm not listening to that shit) is Pardew is surprisingly complimentary of the club and the fans and Souness is Souness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33241 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Pretty much, plus Pardew's bullshit about how quickly the fans can turn against you and how any manager is only one game away from coming under pressure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23651 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 36 minutes ago, ewerk said: Pretty much, plus Pardew's bullshit about how quickly the fans can turn against you and how any manager is only one game away from coming under pressure. we turned against him because he was a one-season wonder and spent the rest of his time as manager fanking mike for being such a supportive owner 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4568 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 And losing four fucking derbies... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 10 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Can we employ his replacement whilst he’s tending the begonias?…. Yep. We'll be paying for two people in the same post, but not the end of the world. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howay 12496 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Good to hear Eales mention that we’re searching, this dispels any of the Man U fans wet dreams that it impacts us. It’s similar to how it’s handled with managers on the continent really, they don’t sack them they just put them on gardening leave so they continue to be paid for essentially doing nowt. I know the Man U fans are all dreaming that Ashworth could work while on leave, of course he could try and get around it but if they were to get caught doing something like that it would be a massive court case and likely something outside of football, I can’t see Man U or Ashworth risking it tbf. At the very minimum I can’t see us letting him have any impact in the summer window, and possibly next January neither. People don’t seem to be understanding we hold all the cards here . They pay the contractual amount and he sits on leave for 20 months as stipulated by his contract or they give us whatever we demand. We have no real need for money here, and the other options besides paying us the rate and have him sitting for 20 month is he spends his entire contract out of footy as he’d still be employed by NUFC. The bloke is likely on around £1m a year so I’ve no clue why Man U fans keep bringing FFP up as his cost is negligible regardless of it counts to ffp or not. Agree fully with Gemmill that the way Man U have conducted themselves is a fucking disgrace. You’re dealing with a club you’ve had history big timing (see the Lingard deal) so how is the right approach to act like there’s a new party to the relationship to approach only the director himself, along with leaking the approach through limpets like Romano and Ornstein? NUFC still haven’t been approached for their employee, and it’s at the point where his position is completely untenable, yet the press and Man U fans are expecting us “to be reasonable” . In complete contrast when we made our approach for Ashworth we went to Brighton, dealt with them and accepted their terms. I can see a lot of disgust from our side just from Howe’s responses to the situation so I can only imagine how people like Al Rummayyan will be receiving this type of treatment. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anorthernsoul 1222 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, Howay said: Good to hear Eales mention that we’re searching, this dispels any of the Man U fans wet dreams that it impacts us. It’s similar to how it’s handled with managers on the continent really, they don’t sack them they just put them on gardening leave so they continue to be paid for essentially doing nowt. I know the Man U fans are all dreaming that Ashworth could work while on leave, of course he could try and get around it but if they were to get caught doing something like that it would be a massive court case and likely something outside of football, I can’t see Man U or Ashworth risking it tbf. At the very minimum I can’t see us letting him have any impact in the summer window, and possibly next January neither. People don’t seem to be understanding we hold all the cards here . They pay the contractual amount and he sits on leave for 20 months as stipulated by his contract or they give us whatever we demand. We have no real need for money here, and the other options besides paying us the rate and have him sitting for 20 month is he spends his entire contract out of footy as he’d still be employed by NUFC. The bloke is likely on around £1m a year so I’ve no clue why Man U fans keep bringing FFP up as his cost is negligible regardless of it counts to ffp or not. Agree fully with Gemmill that the way Man U have conducted themselves is a fucking disgrace. You’re dealing with a club you’ve had history big timing (see the Lingard deal) so how is the right approach to act like there’s a new party to the relationship to approach only the director himself, along with leaking the approach through limpets like Romano and Ornstein? NUFC still haven’t been approached for their employee, and it’s at the point where his position is completely untenable, yet the press and Man U fans are expecting us “to be reasonable” . In complete contrast when we made our approach for Ashworth we went to Brighton, dealt with them and accepted their terms. I can see a lot of disgust from our side just from Howe’s responses to the situation so I can only imagine how people like Al Rummayyan will be receiving this type of treatment. Excellent post 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10372 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 At least it is refreshing my hatred for Man United fans. I started to feel a bit meh about those self entitled cunts. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 50036 Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 They've finally made an official approach apparently. Staveley: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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