2024/25 - Generic NUFC Chat. Cunts ☑️

[Holden McGroin 7682]

45 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

I was thinking last night.  There's a lot of pissing of knickers.

Aston Villa finished the season well.  They've recruited well, we spanked them in the opening fixture.

City. Frustrating game really.  But we got beat 1-0 by a team that wiped the floor with most people last season and in recent times we have been smashed at the Ethiad.

Liverpool. A game that should have been out of sight in the first half.  A reminder how much we have to go.  As much as we despise the cunts, they are a team we would love to emulate.
Brighton. Nuff Said
Brentford. Ground out a win after two games that must have smashed morale.
Meelan. 0-0 and another clean sheet.

So, pisser of pants. Just look at the calibre of teams we are playing.  We got a clean sheet against last years Champions League finalists FFS and people are moaning about how we don't look like we are last year.  We are half a dozen games in FFS.  We have got new players that are still finding their feet into Eddie's system.  Players like Tonali who are coming into a new league and culture.

Chill man.

 

There is a certain beauty about, none other than Wykiki telling the forum to chill. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[Holden McGroin 7682]

17 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

The response on here seems pretty measured so far 

Aye. The point is amazing but we definitely aren’t the same force as we were last season. Whether that’s personnel or fitness..I don’t know. I have faith Eddie will get us back on track.

 

I can count on one hand how many games we didn’t deserve to get anything out of last season. I think we are close to that mark already this season. 

[wykikitoon 22987]

Are we holding some of the press off at the moment due to the increase in number of games from last season? Or should I say the shorter turn around times?

[Christmas Tree 5123]

7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

The response on here seems pretty measured so far 

Aye, I think  most people, including Eddie, are just a bit ponderous as to our overall style of play at the minute, not so much the results. 
 

I don’t think it’s anything major, but we are certainly not ourselves. On our day we are like a super charged engine and it only takes a few misfires to make it sluggish. 
 

We have players who are out of form, new players trying to fit in, and others whose confidence  is dropping off because of how the above is effecting us. 
 

Personally, I think the midfield is the main problem at the moment and given how much Howe will need to use the full squad in the coming months, I think he is going to have a tough time trying to get the engine purring again.

[Holden McGroin 7682]

1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said:

Aye, I think  most people, including Eddie, are just a bit ponderous as to our overall style of play at the minute, not so much the results. 
 

I don’t think it’s anything major, but we are certainly not ourselves. On our day we are like a super charged engine and it only takes a few misfires to make it sluggish. 
 

We have players who are out of form, new players trying to fit in, and others whose confidence  is dropping off because of how the above is effecting us. 
 

Personally, I think the midfield is the main problem at the moment and given how much Howe will need to use the full squad in the coming months, I think he is going to have a tough time trying to get the engine purring again.

Wykiki being the voice of reason and now CT using metaphors to accurately describe the current tactical issues…. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ?!?

[wykikitoon 22987]

6 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Wykiki being the voice of reason and now CT using metaphors to accurately describe the current tactical issues…. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ?!?

THE VORTEX!!!

[toonotl 3443]

 

Here's the corresponding games for last season at 10.6. This season is 13.8. So definitely much less intensity in the press even when allowing for the difficulty of the opposition. What was our overall PPDA last season? I can't seem to track it down.

[Holden McGroin 7682]

32 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Are we holding some of the press off at the moment due to the increase in number of games from last season? Or should I say the shorter turn around times?

Possibly. One other thing I will say is that we aren’t looking after the ball as much as did in the midfield area. Everything is about going for the kill (which id much rather do than pedestrian football) but we need to be cleverer in possession with this many games. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[wykikitoon 22987]

IMO Bruno has been better last two games.  Hopefully thats because of an uptick in form and they've employed a nanny. 

[Dr Gloom 23695]

48 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Are we holding some of the press off at the moment due to the increase in number of games from last season? Or should I say the shorter turn around times?

It’s a good point. Maybe the way we attacked every game last season, pressing like rabid dogs, isn’t sustainable while you’re playing three games a week 

[Dr Gloom 23695]

47 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Wykiki being the voice of reason and now CT using metaphors to accurately describe the current tactical issues…. WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON ?!?

All we need is Gemmill to confidently predict Everton will survive and we can safely say we’re living in the matrix 

[Gemmill 50151]

10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

All we need is Gemmill to confidently predict Everton will survive and we can safely say we’re living in the matrix 

 

[Toonpack 11413]

2 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

I was thinking last night.  There's a lot of pissing of knickers.

Aston Villa finished the season well.  They've recruited well, we spanked them in the opening fixture.

City. Frustrating game really.  But we got beat 1-0 by a team that wiped the floor with most people last season and in recent times we have been smashed at the Ethiad.

Liverpool. A game that should have been out of sight in the first half.  A reminder how much we have to go.  As much as we despise the cunts, they are a team we would love to emulate.
Brighton. Nuff Said
Brentford. Ground out a win after two games that must have smashed morale.
Meelan. 0-0 and another clean sheet.

So, pisser of pants. Just look at the calibre of teams we are playing.  We got a clean sheet against last years Champions League finalists FFS and people are moaning about how we don't look like we are last year.  We are half a dozen games in FFS.  We have got new players that are still finding their feet into Eddie's system.  Players like Tonali who are coming into a new league and culture.

Chill man.

 

 

Not so sure I want us to murder other teams fans tbh.

 

Rest of post is spot on though.

Edited September 20, 2023 by Toonpack

[The Fish 11323]

1 hour ago, toonotl said:

 

Here's the corresponding games for last season at 10.6. This season is 13.8. So definitely much less intensity in the press even when allowing for the difficulty of the opposition. What was our overall PPDA last season? I can't seem to track it down.

 

Our average PpDA last season was 9.19 (here )

 

Where'd you get those stats from? I have this;

 

 

Liverpool is anomalous because of Pope's red card last season. But in all games we're allowing more passes per defensive action than our average last season. I reckon part of that is our form, part of that is the quality of opposition, part of it will be teams working us out a bit too.

 

 

1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

Possibly. One other thing I will say is that we aren’t looking after the ball as much as did in the midfield area. Everything is about going for the kill (which id much rather do than pedestrian football) but we need to be cleverer in possession with this many games. 

 

I wonder if this comes back to confidence? Looking for that killer ball straight away rather than trusting each other to pass the ball around?

[Holden McGroin 7682]

23 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

Our average PpDA last season was 9.19 (here )

 

Where'd you get those stats from? I have this;

 

 

Liverpool is anomalous because of Pope's red card last season. But in all games we're allowing more passes per defensive action than our average last season. I reckon part of that is our form, part of that is the quality of opposition, part of it will be teams working us out a bit too.

 

 

 

I wonder if this comes back to confidence? Looking for that killer ball straight away rather than trusting each other to pass the ball around?

i think confidence is a factor. I suspect we were over confident after dispatching villa (and soaking up the adulation). Then it’s been massively dented by the Liverpool game. Back down to earth and a reminder we aren’t as good as we thought we were (both players and fans).

 

I once got players player of the year for my Saturday team. At the start of the next season I swanned around the pitch thinking I don’t need to try that hard. I got dropped after about 4 games. 😂

 

I think there was an element of this. Our players aren’t the calibre of liverpool or Man City etc so we need to work our balls off and know our limitations. 

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Holden McGroin

[The Fish 11323]

There are so many factors, confidence, new players, new contracts, etc.

[Holden McGroin 7682]

Aye. Upto Howe and Mad dog to get us going again. 

[The Fish 11323]

On 19/09/2023 at 11:04, The Fish said:

 

Goals scored vs Expected goals. You don't want to be below the line for a long time (failing to put away your chances), or to the bottom left corner (not making chances or scoring them.)

 

 

Goals conceded vs chances given up. You don't want to be above the line for a long time (conceding a lot of chances), or to the top right corner (giving up lots of chances and conceding from them)

 

 

You want to be bottom right, creating lots and conceding few chances. You don't want to be top left. We're not doing great at the minute. Not creating much and giving up quite a few.

Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. 

[wykikitoon 22987]

44 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. 

[Gemmill 50151]

8 scored vs 3.94 xG according to MOTD2.

[Holden McGroin 7682]

We could have had 11. Wilson (2) and Gordon missed absolute sitters 

[Dr Gloom 23695]

16 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

We could have had 11. Wilson (2) and Gordon missed absolute sitters 

 

don't forget the blatant pen that VAR ignored because we were already three up and we're not a side which wears red from the north west 

[Rayvin 5955]

2 hours ago, The Fish said:

Thoroughly tempted to update based off the Sheffield result. 

 

Idk how you're resisting the urge tbh, whenever I maintain this sort of shit the second any new data point comes in I have to update it, followed by excitedly staring at it for a bit. Then I undo it and allow myself to relive the moment.

 

I wish I was joking.

[The Fish 11323]

1 hour ago, Rayvin said:

 

Idk how you're resisting the urge tbh, whenever I maintain this sort of shit the second any new data point comes in I have to update it, followed by excitedly staring at it for a bit. Then I undo it and allow myself to relive the moment.

 

I wish I was joking.

I have no will power

 

 

 

[Rayvin 5955]

Beautiful. Brings a tear to the eye.