2024/25 - Generic NUFC Chat. Cunts ☑️

[Howmanheyman 35245]

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Newcastle United are set to engage architects to lead the redesign of St James’ Park or a new build on nearby Leazes Park, and Confidential can reveal the proposed capacities and the industry-leading experts in the running.

London-based KSS have been working with Tyneside architects Ryder and have met with the club. Drawings of how the two options would look have been produced and seen by staff inside St James’.

We understand the plans the club are currently working to would see St James’ expanded to a capacity of 60,300, while a new stadium would hold 70,000 fans.

Some of the drawings for a new build are said to have a 'bubble wrap' style design around them.

 

[strawb 4534]

I imagine by bubble wrap they mean like around the Allianz in Munich, it was class when I was there tbf. But I was on the 3rd tier and I couldn’t see shit 

[Gemmill 48204]

I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. 

[wykikitoon 21994]

I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit.

[Gemmill 48204]

Alright Savile. 

[PaddockLad 18286]

20 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit.

[Howmanheyman 35245]

23 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit.

 

"Ah thought ah recognised the face, anyways, here's a headline ah did earlier about that time ah worked with the kid from Yorkshire ...."

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Howmanheyman

[Isegrim 10140]

I am no arsitec … errr … arsonect … err posh builder [/Ryder]

[strawb 4534]

26 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. 

Location is absolutely key. There isn’t a stadium in the country in a better location than ours.

 

The obvious comparison is Man City, I’ve been in Manchester for 10 years now and I’ve seen the redevelopment around the area. I’ve been in the home and away end at their new stadium. Ultimately, they have thrown hundreds of millions at it, it’s impressive facilities but it’s a dump. It’s at the arse end of “new Islington” (where I had a flat) which before the stadium had been a horror show unless you were going to sankeys for a couple of pills.

 

The lower capacity, if redesigned well could incorporate more corporate seats (where the real money is), at minimal loss/or increase of normal seating for the regulars, increase the commercial income from extras like drink/food, keep the demand high so we don’t end up with an “emptihad” situation which kills the atmosphere and most importantly keeps us city centre.

 

Could be chatting shit though, I haven’t seen the feasibility reports.

[Howmanheyman 35245]

I think there's zero chance we move out of the city centre, it's a SJP renovation or a kick up the arse from SJP new stadium if the latter is feasible it's a no brainer they go for it. 

[Dr Gloom 23015]

70k is about right I reckon. Might be annoying if it’s still a chew on to get tickets but they’ll want a full ground every week. 
 

Be nice if they issued some new season tickets 

Edited 7 hours ago by Dr Gloom

[Kid Dynamite 7421]

3 hours ago, Gemmill said:

I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. 

Aye. Would only make it the 6th biggest ground in the league, and the 8000 extra seats would probably take 100 years to pay off the initial outlay. Time to prepare ourselves for the announcement that we are moving. 

[Dougle 3564]

80k statement ground.

[Andrew 5030]

3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Aye. Would only make it the 6th biggest ground in the league, and the 8000 extra seats would probably take 100 years to pay off the initial outlay. Time to prepare ourselves for the announcement that we are moving. 

 

You're assuming that the intention of a bigger ground is to turn a profit for the owners in terms of ticket sales. The commercial income would skyrocket with a 60k ground with an improved corporate set up even though the relative increase in seats is fairly low. Bums on seats is important for atmosphere and optics but it turns over surprisingly little money for PL clubs.

Infrastructure costs are not included in FFP/PSR, match day revenue is. So its an outlay for PIF that won't return them any cash in the short term (though it would increase the clubs resale value) but would translate into spendable money for the club within the current regulations which means we get better, we get bigger, we get in the CL more, they can entertain their fancy pals at their state of the art PL ground on european nights and they can continue to launder their reputations.

 

We're not operating like a spurs or west ham in this regard. Its not about the money, its about sports washing.