Howmanheyman 35731 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 If you can't smile at this..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22290 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Whaddya know, they were working on the stadium plan all this time. Silence did not mean nothing was getting done. 😋 The YouTube Gammons will find something else to have a moan at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22290 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: If you can't smile at this..... Love it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23318 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 a 70k new stadium on leazes park would be great. fuck knows what this bubble wrap craic means. i hope they build at least one steep kop end behind a goal in a bid to generate a decent atmosphere. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 35731 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Quote Newcastle United are set to engage architects to lead the redesign of St James’ Park or a new build on nearby Leazes Park, and Confidential can reveal the proposed capacities and the industry-leading experts in the running. London-based KSS have been working with Tyneside architects Ryder and have met with the club. Drawings of how the two options would look have been produced and seen by staff inside St James’. We understand the plans the club are currently working to would see St James’ expanded to a capacity of 60,300, while a new stadium would hold 70,000 fans. Some of the drawings for a new build are said to have a 'bubble wrap' style design around them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4588 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I imagine by bubble wrap they mean like around the Allianz in Munich, it was class when I was there tbf. But I was on the 3rd tier and I couldn’t see shit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 48916 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22290 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 48916 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Alright Savile. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18583 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 20 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 35731 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 23 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I've worked with Ryder on a few schools, decent outfit. "Ah thought ah recognised the face, anyways, here's a headline ah did earlier about that time ah worked with the kid from Yorkshire ...." Edited January 30 by Howmanheyman 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 10218 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I am no arsitec … errr … arsonect … err posh builder [/Ryder] 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4588 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 26 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. Location is absolutely key. There isn’t a stadium in the country in a better location than ours. The obvious comparison is Man City, I’ve been in Manchester for 10 years now and I’ve seen the redevelopment around the area. I’ve been in the home and away end at their new stadium. Ultimately, they have thrown hundreds of millions at it, it’s impressive facilities but it’s a dump. It’s at the arse end of “new Islington” (where I had a flat) which before the stadium had been a horror show unless you were going to sankeys for a couple of pills. The lower capacity, if redesigned well could incorporate more corporate seats (where the real money is), at minimal loss/or increase of normal seating for the regulars, increase the commercial income from extras like drink/food, keep the demand high so we don’t end up with an “emptihad” situation which kills the atmosphere and most importantly keeps us city centre. Could be chatting shit though, I haven’t seen the feasibility reports. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 35731 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I think there's zero chance we move out of the city centre, it's a SJP renovation or a kick up the arse from SJP new stadium if the latter is feasible it's a no brainer they go for it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23318 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 70k is about right I reckon. Might be annoying if it’s still a chew on to get tickets but they’ll want a full ground every week. Be nice if they issued some new season tickets Edited January 30 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7516 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, Gemmill said: I don't really see the point in redeveloping SJP for only 8k seats more. Aye. Would only make it the 6th biggest ground in the league, and the 8000 extra seats would probably take 100 years to pay off the initial outlay. Time to prepare ourselves for the announcement that we are moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3617 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 80k statement ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5095 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Aye. Would only make it the 6th biggest ground in the league, and the 8000 extra seats would probably take 100 years to pay off the initial outlay. Time to prepare ourselves for the announcement that we are moving. You're assuming that the intention of a bigger ground is to turn a profit for the owners in terms of ticket sales. The commercial income would skyrocket with a 60k ground with an improved corporate set up even though the relative increase in seats is fairly low. Bums on seats is important for atmosphere and optics but it turns over surprisingly little money for PL clubs. Infrastructure costs are not included in FFP/PSR, match day revenue is. So its an outlay for PIF that won't return them any cash in the short term (though it would increase the clubs resale value) but would translate into spendable money for the club within the current regulations which means we get better, we get bigger, we get in the CL more, they can entertain their fancy pals at their state of the art PL ground on european nights and they can continue to launder their reputations. We're not operating like a spurs or west ham in this regard. Its not about the money, its about sports washing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7516 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) It wouldn't be a state of the art ground though. It would be the current ground tarted up with another tier on the Gallowgate. How many corporate seats do you think they can add into one extra tier? They are 100% building a new ground with a shitload of corporate seats and bars/restaurants to bring in cash hours before and hours after games. The club have been drip feeding hints for months. You say grounds turnover surprisingly little money, but: Last season (2022/23) Newcastle United banked around £38m (£37.9m) from matchday revenue, it was Man U who were at the very top of the English clubs with matchday revenue for the season of £129m. Edited January 31 by Kid Dynamite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 5095 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said: It wouldn't be a state of the art ground though. It would be the current ground tarted up with another tier on the Gallowgate. How many corporate seats do you think they can add into one extra tier? They are 100% building a new ground with a shitload of corporate seats and bars/restaurants to bring in cash hours before and hours after games. The club have been drip feeding hints for months. You say grounds turnover surprisingly little money, but: Last season (2022/23) Newcastle United banked around £38m (£37.9m) from matchday revenue, it was Man U who were at the very top of the English clubs with matchday revenue for the season of £129m. Thats fair enough, I would expect it to be a new ground tbh, even then I'd expect 60-65k capacity, its the done thing lately. Now also to be fair, I didn't say grounds turn over little money, I said bums on seats do by which I mean regular punters through the turnstiles. Matchday revenue is built so much on the more expensive box seats that increasing our capacity in that regard matters much more than increasing regular capacity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10022 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Be nice if they issued some new season tickets no chance. they're probably more interested in the current ones dieing off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 35731 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: no chance. they're probably more interested in the current ones dieing off. In the past you could've transferred a season ticket I'm positive, I think the chances of that still being allowed are nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22290 Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 Its a trade off init? Do we want to get over this PSR shite and have a club that competes at the highest level? If so then that's a restriction in season tickets and more tickets on general sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18583 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 34 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: no chance. they're probably more interested in the current ones dieing off. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10022 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: In the past you could've transferred a season ticket I'm positive, I think the chances of that still being allowed are nil. didn't they have a purge a year or two back whereby season ticket holders had a limited period to update all details of who actually owned the ticket and whether or not they were actually using it? also seem recall at the time them saying any transfer of ownership was at their discretion? think they also only released about a thousand new ones on a first come first served basis to replace the many who'd sacked theirs off because of ashley. hat doffed to those that got them and pioneered the multi log-in, I have to confess it never occurred to me at the time! I think the bindippers recent expansion only a very limited number of season tickets were released and went to folk who'd been on a waiting list for donkey's years. we haven't even got one have we? be 8nteresting to see how they went about it if they did release some, can't imagine it being anything other than another ballot, which pretty much rules me out of any hope of success! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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