2024/25 - Generic NUFC Chat. Cunts ☑️

[Dougle 3425]

[RobinRobin 11684]

[ohhh_yeah 2991]

 

 

[ewerk 31294]

[Holden McGroin 6815]

28 minutes ago, ohhh_yeah said:

 

 

[Zoidberg 154]

1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said:

[Gemmill 46503]

Saka has had surgery on his hamstring so definitely misses both legs of the semi final. Out for a couple of months. 

[Gemmill 46503]

Interesting that there were reports in the Athletic of Ashworth saying that if he'd known Staveley was going to leave, he would have stayed. Suggests she was maybe a bit too involved - the fact she kept stepping in to get contract discussions over the line, and seemed to be heavily involved in transfer windows was maybe a problem.

[Holden McGroin 6815]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

Saka has had surgery on his hamstring so definitely misses both legs of the semi final. Out for a couple of months. 

[RobinRobin 11684]

3 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Interesting that there were reports in the Athletic of Ashworth saying that if he'd known Staveley was going to leave, he would have stayed. Suggests she was maybe a bit too involved - the fact she kept stepping in to get contract discussions over the line, and seemed to be heavily involved in transfer windows was maybe a problem.

Don't think he's a great loss but there's probably some truth there, which is what Mitchell was intimating. 

[Christmas Tree 4883]

30 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Interesting that there were reports in the Athletic of Ashworth saying that if he'd known Staveley was going to leave, he would have stayed. Suggests she was maybe a bit too involved - the fact she kept stepping in to get contract discussions over the line, and seemed to be heavily involved in transfer windows was maybe a problem.

All depends who we would have missed out on had she not got heavily involved in transfers.

 

 

[Toonpack 10139]

2 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

All depends who we would have missed out on had she not got heavily involved in transfers.

 

 

 

Or maybe how much we wouldn't have screwed up PSR

[wykikitoon 21029]

Reminds me of the story when Leeds bought Seth Johnson. He went in to see Peter Ridsdale with his agent and wanted £20k a week. They go in Peter said something like 'you're not getting more than £30k a week take it or leave it' they both looked stunned so he says 'OK £40k' basically that was his negotiations and that's how he fucked Leeds over. 

[PaddockLad 17824]

Not screwing up PSR probably means no Gordon, Livramento and Hall…. unless we’d been canny sellers in the summer of 2023…. you can reel off the names you’d be happy to see the back of but as we saw  last season you need a squad of 25+…. 

[PaddockLad 17824]

5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Reminds me of the story when Leeds bought Seth Johnson. He went in to see Peter Ridsdale with his agent and wanted £20k a week. They go in Peter said something like 'you're not getting more than £30k a week take it or leave it' they both looked stunned so he says 'OK £40k' basically that was his negotiations and that's how he fucked Leeds over. 

What reminds you of that? 

[wykikitoon 21029]

23 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

What reminds you of that? 

If Amanda was putting her nose in for transfer negotiations and fucking the PSR

 

IF 

 

 

[Toonpack 10139]

50 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Not screwing up PSR probably means no Gordon, Livramento and Hall…. unless we’d been canny sellers in the summer of 2023…. you can reel off the names you’d be happy to see the back of but as we saw  last season you need a squad of 25+…. 

 

Or maybe just no Barnes, a signing I still don't understand.

[PaddockLad 17824]

1 minute ago, Toonpack said:

 

Or maybe just no Barnes, a signing I still don't understand.

its 3 from those four without sales if we were putting say 10 mill down on each. Was it 30 mill we were short? Something like that. So we’d have had to raise that 30 mill by selling Longy, Miggy, Murphy etc etc… my point is the squad going into a champions league season would’ve been woefully short on numbers. And the same people whingeing about how shit we were round Christmas last year would’ve been moaning how shit we were in September  

[PaddockLad 17824]

33 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

If Amanda was putting her nose in for transfer negotiations and fucking the PSR

 

IF 

 

 

It was literally Ridsdale’s job to negotiate transfer fees. And it was Staveley’s too in our first couple of windows. I don’t remember too many complaints at the time. She may well have trod on Ashworth’s no doubt delicate toes which obviously isn’t ideal. But that’s just executive level politics, same at most corporate companies..  

[wykikitoon 21029]

11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

It was literally Ridsdale’s job to negotiate transfer fees. And it was Staveley’s too in our first couple of windows. I don’t remember too many complaints at the time. She may well have trod on Ashworth’s no doubt delicate toes which obviously isn’t ideal. But that’s just executive level politics, same at most corporate companies..  

I am only reciting a story, which is probably utter bollocks.  However negotiations usually start with a demand from the party.  Here Leeds said they're giving him x without hearing what his demand was.

[Gemmill 46503]

Closer to £60m we were short. If it was only £30m we'd just have sold one of Anderson/Minteh. 

[PaddockLad 17824]

4 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Closer to £60m we were short. If it was only £30m we'd just have sold one of Anderson/Minteh. 

Ok, that definitely includes missing out on Barnes too then…or doing something mad like selling Bruno

 

Forest narrowly missed the PSR target and were docked points. They’re now second. There’s a chance we wouldn’t even be in this division if we’d missed it by 60 mill  

Edited December 30, 2024 by PaddockLad

[Gemmill 46503]

Said this at the time when some people were adamant that someone at the club had to be to blame for the PSR situation, and June 30th: it was nobody's fault.

 

We had to go big in that first January window, or else relegation would have meant "the project" was dead on arrival. 

 

There would have been a reasonable assumption that we could trade our way out of that hole with the likes of ASM, Wilson, Almiron, etc. But we basically had to out ourselves in a hole to get anywhere. 

 

We haven't done anything particularly mental in any window since then. Even in the Jan window before June 30 we thought we could get a good chunk of the PSR hole through selling Almiron but he refused to go. Wilson looked on his way out too but it didn't happen. 

 

It's a nightmare set of rules to try and stick to AND make any sort of progress. I think they've done a pretty incredible job tbh, helped massively by Howe and his team being fucking ridiculously good at their jobs. 

[PaddockLad 17824]

Daniel Storey is a proper good cunt iyam

 

https://bsky.app/profile/danielstorey85.bsky.social/post/3lej3gxy2ac2v

[Dougle 3425]

4 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Interesting that there were reports in the Athletic of Ashworth saying that if he'd known Staveley was going to leave, he would have stayed. Suggests she was maybe a bit too involved - the fact she kept stepping in to get contract discussions over the line, and seemed to be heavily involved in transfer windows was maybe a problem.

 

She was hardly a problem like. Without her we’d still be living in Ashley World and as for the transfers she was involved in compared to rat boy’s at manure well……