OTF 7295 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 5 minutes ago, Gemmill said: UNSUBSCRIBE this is Gemill's version of: "Sorry. looks I might have got this one wrong, lads." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20129 Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 I'm well confused I am going to have to go back and read the Mitchell Interview, because I am on the same page as Gemmill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: this is Gemill's version of: "Sorry. looks I might have got this one wrong, lads." 23 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Now all of you divs that don't understand this PLEASE FUCK OFF BECAUSE I'M NOT EXPLAINING IT AGAIN. Continue thinking that the new DoF was slagging off our current playing squad if you so please. I am DONE trying to guide you through this difficult phase in your lives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 4 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I'm well confused I am going to have to go back and read the Mitchell Interview, because I am on the same page as Gemmill. No need to be confused and no need to re-read anything. You're correct and the Vicki Pollard ehrmagerd crew are talking PURE SHITE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: No need to be confused and no need to re-read anything. You're correct and the Vicki Pollard ehrmagerd crew are talking PURE SHITE. UNSUBSCRIBE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 8 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I'm well confused I am going to have to go back and read the Mitchell Interview, because I am on the same page as Gemmill. Exactly what page is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 wykiki, if you no longer wish to receive this INANE SHITE, text STOP to 65055 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17255 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Gemmill is right, the policy needs changing. However, there’s no fuckin way that Mitchell should’ve put that point in the terms that he did in public to some of the biggest journalistic cunts in the uk (Craig Hope was apparently there too) If someone needs to talk on behalf of the club in future it should be Eales, not some mealy mouthed manc bruiser who may have a firm grasp of the absolute waste of fuckin time that is Xg but is about as subtle as Gemmill loitering near a taxi rank at 10pm on a city centre Saturday night with his Focus sat poised in an adjacent car park. If Gemmill can’t understand this, as usual he’s not as fuckin clever as he thinks he is. As posters may have noticed, I now no longer desire his recently rediscovered Smiths records 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 12 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Gemmill is right, the policy needs changing. However, there’s no fuckin way that Mitchell should’ve put that point in the terms that he did in public to some of the biggest journalistic cunts in the uk (Craig Hope was apparently there too) If someone needs to talk on behalf of the club in future it should be Eales, not some mealy mouthed manc bruiser who may have a firm grasp of the absolute waste of fuckin time that is Xg but is about as subtle as Gemmill loitering near a taxi rank at 10pm on a city centre Saturday night with his Focus sat poised in an adjacent car park. If Gemmill can’t understand this, as usual he’s not as fuckin clever as he thinks he is. As posters may have noticed, I now no longer desire his recently rediscovered Smiths records UNSUBSCRIBE Reason for unsubscribing: I don't even recall subscribing to hear the thoughts of this fucking MEGAWHOPPER. Apart from the first sentence, which is excellent, the rest of this is UNREADABLE SHITE. Now please remove me from your mailing list at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 6 hours ago, ewerk said: See this is why you're a so called accountant and I work in business. You can't just look at the outgoings and say 'we're spending too much'. The person we should all be turning our attention to is Peter Silverstone, the man with what should be the easiest job in the world: commercial director for Newcastle United. Man City can reach down the back of the sofa and come up with a few commercial deals worth tens of millions yet he hasn't been able to replicate that even though our owner is literally the dictator of one of the world's wealthiest countries. I think you underestimate the difficulty of the task at hand. Previously, clubs who had suddenly become cash rich could sign whatever deal they like with whomever they like, without giving a shit about appearing fair or not. Pre-FFP/PSR Newcastle would be sponsored by Aramco for £100m a season, or some such bollocks. We're not in Europe, we're not going to immediately be challenging for titles or trophies (even if we were allowed to spend what we could afford). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 2 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: i would say the opposite to what mitchell declared - it was fit for purpose. the recruitment of an ambitious and progressive young manager and some astute signings turbo-charged us to champions league qualification years ahead of schedule and facilitated even more exciting signings - few of which we paid over the odds for or whom have looked out of place. the words mitchell offered up, without any explanation to exactly what or who he was getting at, smacked of self-preservation and understandably provoked a response from howe and the ensuing, unnecessary drama. yes, he is right to acknowledge that we are constrained by psr and might have to be more cautious if we fail again to pull in the champions league riches, but the way he put it was naive at best and if you're going to be more cynical it was provocative. It was so fit for purpose we had to scramble like fuck and lose 2 promising young players to avoid a PSR breach, aye, that is the epitome of fit for purpose. Mitchell's comment was entirely accurate in the context of the modern rigged game IMO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 hour ago, wykikitoon said: I'm well confused I am going to have to go back and read the Mitchell Interview, because I am on the same page as Gemmill. Read Mark Douglas' report, most balanced of the lot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9748 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 3 minutes ago, Toonpack said: It was so fit for purpose we had to scramble like fuck and lose 2 promising young players to avoid a PSR breach, aye, that is the epitome of fit for purpose. Mitchell's comment was entirely accurate in the context of the modern rigged game IMO. It’s fit for purpose if the purpose is to start every season on -9 points. My boxing strategy is to take a step back at the start of each round and fucking whack myself in the face as hard as possible and then wonder why I’ve never won a fight. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 30 minutes ago, The Fish said: I think you underestimate the difficulty of the task at hand. Previously, clubs who had suddenly become cash rich could sign whatever deal they like with whomever they like, without giving a shit about appearing fair or not. Pre-FFP/PSR Newcastle would be sponsored by Aramco for £100m a season, or some such bollocks. We're not in Europe, we're not going to immediately be challenging for titles or trophies (even if we were allowed to spend what we could afford). Last season we were in the CL. That was the time to come out with the dodgy deals and try to explain everything away by saying we're a CL club now. Instead it looks like we're far to scared to even test the associated party rules and the taps of untold wealth. For example, why are our shirt deals worth nearly half of Tottenham's? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Amanda was shown in the documentary asking if the Sela deal was fair as they didn't want to get in trouble. We probably should just have been a bunch a cunts like a load of other teams and played dirty. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 31 minutes ago, Toonpack said: It was so fit for purpose we had to scramble like fuck and lose 2 promising young players to avoid a PSR breach, aye, that is the epitome of fit for purpose. Mitchell's comment was entirely accurate in the context of the modern rigged game IMO. the point is Mitchell didn’t clarify what he meant about any of this, effectively placing the blame on Howe and creating an unnecessary shitstorm. Put yourself in Howe’s shoes. I would be seething if a colleague had suggested similar in public without explanation about my work too. I agree that the sales to satisfy psr in a July were frantic and suboptimal. This is the world of psr we are constrained by, exacerbated by the ongoing struggle to try to shift Mike Ashley-era players that no club will take off our hands. But Mitchell didn’t go into enough detail on any of this stuff, effectively leaving Howe out to dry and creating this shitstorm in the media. Howe has done an unbelievable job as manager and de facto DoF for a lot of his time here and deserves massive credit. He didn’t deserve to have his work criticised in such a clumsy way by his new colleague. If Mitchell he’d been more considered and diplomatic, the media wouldn't have jumped on the story, Howe would have batted the questions away as he usually does instead of biting and we wouldn’t still be arguing about it two weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ewerk said: Last season we were in the CL. That was the time to come out with the dodgy deals and try to explain everything away by saying we're a CL club now. Instead it looks like we're far to scared to even test the associated party rules and the taps of untold wealth. For example, why are our shirt deals worth nearly half of Tottenham's? this is the point I was alluding to earlier about the commercial team. they weren’t criticised by Mitchell. Seems he’d rather hang out the manager to dry Edited September 17 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) He may be ineloquent but however you look at it Mitchell has publicly completely distanced himself from taking any blame in this window. Thats a shitty move from him to cover his own arse. Edited September 17 by Holden McGroin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 52 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Read Mark Douglas' report, most balanced of the lot. Second most balanced after mine. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 19 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the point is Mitchell didn’t clarify what he meant about any of this, effectively placing the blame on Howe and creating an unnecessary shitstorm. Put yourself in Howe’s shoes. I would be seething if a colleague had suggested similar in public without explanation about my work too. I agree that the sales to satisfy psr in a July were frantic and suboptimal. This is the world of psr we are constrained by, exacerbated by the ongoing struggle to try to shift Mike Ashley-era players that no club will take off our hands. But Mitchell didn’t go into enough detail on any of this stuff, effectively leaving Howe out to dry and creating this shitstorm in the media. Howe has done an unbelievable job as manager and de facto DoF for a lot of his time here and deserves massive credit. He didn’t deserve to have his work criticised in such a clumsy way by his new colleague. If Mitchell he’d been more considered and diplomatic, the media wouldn't have jumped on the story, Howe would have batted the questions away as he usually does instead of biting and we wouldn’t still be arguing about it two weeks later. I didn't take any of it as a dig at Howe tbh. It was Stavely who fronted the deals as far as I know. Read Douglas, it's a storm in a teacup IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9399 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: this is the point I was alluding to earlier about the commercial team. they weren’t criticised by Mitchell. Seems he’d rather hang out the manager to dry He was answering questions, it wasn't a speech, did anyone even ask about the commercial team. There is no way what he said could be considered as hanging Eddie out to dry IMO. Edited September 17 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Why do you think we failed in the transfer window? Big Mitch: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 6 minutes ago, Toonpack said: I didn't take any of it as a dig at Howe tbh. It was Stavely who fronted the deals as far as I know. Read Douglas, it's a storm in a teacup IMO. i guess we'll see. i'm not getting vibes that eddie sees it that way, but i hope it all blows over and mitchell proves himself a top DoF capable of working with the best british manager in the business 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17255 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 1 minute ago, Toonpack said: I didn't take any of it as a dig at Howe tbh. It was Stavely who fronted the deals as far as I know. Read Douglas, it's a storm in a teacup IMO. You might well be right. But what Mitchell said would in my book entitle Howe to ask him “WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU MEAN BY THAT YA CUNT?!” . If you can’t see that you’ve probably been out of the workplace too long grandad 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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