strawb 4249 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 You’re discussing goalkeeping wrong. It’s not one (shot stopping/footwork) at the expense of the other. I think Pope is a better goalkeeper. Southgate, despite his decent record has a tendency to pick favourites. He favours Pickford, his problem not ours. We don’t want our first choice keeper getting the pressure that comes with that job tbh, it ruined Rob Green. Who was a very good goalkeeper. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Aye you're right about that. I don't know what to make of Southgate honestly, he seems to be so deeply boring, uninspiring and constantly picks his favourites over form, doesn't integrate players who deserve to be in the team over his besties. The appearances that the likes of Tomori and Pope have had under him are a total joke considering they're playing far far better than their counterparts who are mainstays in his team. They get no chance to establish themselves, one game here or there which is shite for a 'keeper or defender who benefit from getting to know who they are playing with and then they go straight back out for pickford or harry fucking maguire. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33184 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 I've never really changed my opinion on Southgate, he comes across a young version of Roy Hodgson, the players like him I'm sure and he's sincere enough but he was largely mediocre at Boro in club management and I'm not convinced England will ever win a thing with him although we've been close which is to his credit, I just don't think he's got the winning mentality at the end of the day and would I fuck want him here, would anyone on here have him here? I couldn't really give a fuck about England so I've no real grudge against him on that score. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Andrew said: If you even accept that pickford is top class with his feet (which I don't), how many times has that come to englands real tangible benefit compared to the goals conceded due to the fact that hes not actually a particularly good shot stopper compared to the other options around? Has he dropped many clangers with England? I’ve always thought he’s solid at international level but dodgy with his club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 30602 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: I've never really changed my opinion on Southgate, he comes across a young version of Roy Hodgson, the players like him I'm sure and he's sincere enough but he was largely mediocre at Boro in club management and I'm not convinced England will ever win a thing with him although we've been close which is to his credit, I just don't think he's got the winning mentality at the end of the day and would I fuck want him here, would anyone on here have him here? I couldn't really give a fuck about England so I've no real grudge against him on that score. I don’t think there’s a top 10 club in the Premier League who would give him a job. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11264 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Andrew said: Aye you're right about that. I don't know what to make of Southgate honestly, he seems to be so deeply boring, uninspiring and constantly picks his favourites over form, doesn't integrate players who deserve to be in the team over his besties. The appearances that the likes of Tomori and Pope have had under him are a total joke considering they're playing far far better than their counterparts who are mainstays in his team. They get no chance to establish themselves, one game here or there which is shite for a 'keeper or defender who benefit from getting to know who they are playing with and then they go straight back out for pickford or harry fucking maguire. Southgate knows he is not going on post 2024, so he has no great interest in looking to the future in terms of blooding new players. He will pick his 2018/2021 team until the end of the Euros and then leave. Someone else will have to start from scratch then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I have to admit I don't watch England outside of tournaments. I wasn't even that fussed when we got knocked out of the Euros. I personally think he has done well in all the big tournaments. I don't understand the hatred but then im not invested enough to care but when you look at this overall record I think he has done well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21918 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I have to admit I don't watch England outside of tournaments. I wasn't even that fussed when we got knocked out of the Euros. I personally think he has done well in all the big tournaments. I don't understand the hatred but then im not invested enough to care but when you look at this overall record I think he has done well. he's done really well tbh. i don't agree with a lot of his decisions but you can't argue with the job he's done - a semi final, a final and a quarter final is better than anyone has managed since alf ramsey. he's had a bit of luck along the way and a good pool of players to choose from and has managed the england team more like managing a club at times, the way he picks favourites instead of form players but it's worked pretty well for him in the big tournaments so fair play to the bloke. hope he finally wins the euros in what will almost certainly be his final go at it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21918 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 i stopped taking much interest in the england team around the end of the sven era tbh. i still don't pay much attention outside of the big tournaments but southgate definitely got me interested again. i don't like his tactical negativity or his favouritism with underperforming players but he's comes across as a top bloke, he commands the respect of the players and has got them playing better than his predecessors managed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11264 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: I have to admit I don't watch England outside of tournaments. I wasn't even that fussed when we got knocked out of the Euros. I personally think he has done well in all the big tournaments. I don't understand the hatred but then im not invested enough to care but when you look at this overall record I think he has done well. He has done well and I'm certainly not in the hatred camp. I was merely suggesting why he wasn't looking to the future. I hope he goes out in a blaze of glory. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7025 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Pope out of the England squad with an injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4748 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Pope out of the England squad with an injury He'll be off to the warm weather camp I'm sure. No point him joining england at this stage of the season, hes not getting a serious look in anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21918 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Pope out of the England squad with an injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10857 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 He's interviewed on the Ben Foster podcast and they ask him which teammate he'd want to be on a quiz team with. Properly struggles to come up with an answer "Must have been a few dropped out of school early", "Not a lot of outside careers there" then lumps for Dan Burn because "he owns a Kindle" Good listen to be fair. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20131 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/p/CywWZzauYKl/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng== 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21621 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44866 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Not that worried about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdansmith 3259 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 In the form of his life and he gets a season ending injury. That's so unlucky and I feel sorry for him. He could miss out on so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6583 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tdansmith said: In the form of his life and he gets a season ending injury. That's so unlucky and I feel sorry for him. He could miss out on so much. He'll be fit to watch the Euros from his sofa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11264 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 13 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: He'll be fit to watch the Euros from his sofa. So no change there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 4 hours ago, RobinRobin said: So no change there. England's Nick Pope. So weird that they point out he'll be out for.four to five month and then highlight that it will include a match less than a month away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9749 Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 3 hours ago, OTF said: England's Nick Pope. So weird that they point out he'll be out for.four to five month and then highlight that it will include a match less than a month away. Knowing Howe, Pope will be in sticks on Thursday night for the first 20 minutes and then his arm will literally fall off. He's also equally likely to not have a dislocated shoulder at all, and he's just not sharing that info with us. Also, most likely - he's fucked for the next 4-5 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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