Bruno Guimarães

[PaddockLad 17239]

24 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

under psr rules spending was linked to revenue. now that city have broken revenue records they're linking spend to something we can't affect. same old cartel, always cheating.

I was looking at that the other day. City £800+ mill  in commercial revenue last year. Where are they getting it from and how does it pass the fair market value thing?… 

[Gemmill 44802]

The FMV stuff was very conveniently not backwards applicable.

 

Only for new arrangements.

[Dr Gloom 21911]

didn't etihad give them £500m for a stadium naming rights or something? which was more than five times what arsenal got from emirates - if i remember correctly wenger kicked up a fuss at the time because he could see where things were going - arsenal can't compete with that. 

 

we are being denied the same opportunity. aramco could sponsor st james for 3bn tomorrow but there is no way the greedy six are going to let another chelsea or man city join the club. 

 

it'll be interesting to see whether man city are able to negotiate another massive namig rights deal under new FMV rules, as the first deal with etihad clearly blew FMW under water.

 

it's probably why they haven't done a naing rights deal on st james' yet. they're waiting for this shite to blow over before trying to get the most they can without the greedy shites stopping us. 

[LondonBlue 753]

16 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

I was looking at that the other day. City £800+ mill  in commercial revenue last year. Where are they getting it from and how does it pass the fair market value thing?… 

 

i think it's £712 million rather than 800. the question i would ask, is how does it fail ?

 

all our annual reports going back 10 years are on the city website here https://www.mancity.com/club/annual-reports

 

but you probably want to see page 33 of this pdf https://www.mancity.com/annualreport2023/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/manchester-city_financial-report_2022-23.pdf

 

[LondonBlue 753]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

didn't etihad give them £500m for a stadium naming rights or something? which was more than five times what arsenal got from emirates - if i remember correctly wenger kicked up a fuss at the time because he could see where things were going - arsenal can't compete with that. 

 

we are being denied the same opportunity. aramco could sponsor st james for 3bn tomorrow but there is no way the greedy six are going to let another chelsea or man city join the club. 

 

it'll be interesting to see whether man city are able to negotiate another massive namig rights deal under new FMV rules, as the first deal with etihad clearly blew FMW under water.

 

it's probably why they haven't done a naing rights deal on st james' yet. they're waiting for this shite to blow over before trying to get the most they can without the greedy shites stopping us. 

 

if you take etihad out of the equation, our revenue is still greater than Man U.  let that sink in a moment 🙂

 

etihad stadium naming rights is significant but at £15m a year it hardly explains the £712m.  Etihad also sponsor our shirt and other stuff. . source

 

guess the answer for city is to keep extending the existing naming rights deal.

 

 

[Dr Gloom 21911]

3 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

if you take etihad out of the equation, our revenue is still greater than Man U.  let that sink in a moment 🙂

 

etihad stadium naming rights is significant but at £15m a year it hardly explains the £712m.  Etihad also sponsor our shirt and other stuff. . source

 

guess the answer for city is to keep extending the existing naming rights deal.

 

 

 

you tell me - i'm no expert on man city. if it isn't the etihad deal, which other abu dabhi-affiliated companies have paid over "fair market value" because lets face it - that's how you increased your revenue isn't it? you can't just pump the sheikh's money in so it's funnelled in via "commercial revenue". it's not like man city are suddenly selling more replica shirts than man u is it? i'm sure PIF would like to do the same via affiliated saudi companies but we are not being allowed to repeat the man city model

[ewerk 30542]

9 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

you tell me - i'm no expert on man city. if it isn't the etihad deal, which other abu dabhi-affiliated companies have paid over "fair market value" because lets face it - that's how you increased your revenue isn't it? you can't just pump the sheikh's money in so it's funnelled in via "commercial revenue". it's not like man city are suddenly selling more replica shirts than man u is it? i'm sure PIF would like to do the same via affiliated saudi companies but we are not being allowed to repeat the man city model

 

https://theathletic.com/3120837/2022/02/17/special-report-manchester-citys-sponsors-the-links-to-abu-dhabi-and-what-it-means-for-newcastle-united/

[Dr Gloom 21911]

1 hour ago, ewerk said:

 

https://theathletic.com/3120837/2022/02/17/special-report-manchester-citys-sponsors-the-links-to-abu-dhabi-and-what-it-means-for-newcastle-united/

 

right, so pretty much as i suspected. 

 

so the question must be, will they be allowed to keep their commercial revenue artificially inflated in a world of "FMV" and if so, will the saudis be allowed to join the party? 

 

i suspect the reason we haven't done a big stadium sponsorship or training ground deal yet (low-hanging fruit) is they're waiting to see how this plays out before trying to do a deal that will maximise revenue for us while not falling foul of the bullshit rules designed to stop us. 

Edited May 1 by Dr Gloom

[LondonBlue 753]

Of course Abu Dhabi linked businesses want to be associated with us. Our chairman Khaldoon has grown Mubadala massively since he's been running it. He is THE MAN, a true world stage player.

 

This is my favourite of his interviews ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7rb1j_dRKQ  .. but there are many.

 

There is a flip side though. Etihad airways have been growing faster than Man City, so who's to say that we couldn't be asking for more? maybe its not fair on city

 

[LondonBlue 753]

i would add that i don't really care about where the money is coming from.

 

the rules were brought in to screw us over so if we've found a way around them then tough titties.

 

presumably we have long term deals in place and you'd expect existing deals to be okay.

[LondonBlue 753]

 

one final thing on Khaldoon, he can play a bit too. here he is scoring a hat trick ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgeL71lmdSs

 

this is why we always leave it to the last day of the season to win the league, otherwise he'd be subbing himself on

 

[RobinRobin 11258]

14 hours ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

 

Erm excuse me Mr Robin, but I don't shit on people. 

 

I let people shit on me.

Not what I said, but each to his own 

[Dr Gloom 21911]

at ease lads - he's staying. 

 

 

[Alex 35059]

The fucking gall of that shyster  

[Andrew 4747]

How do these people manage to keep going for more than a single window? Its so blatantly all made up

[Dazzler 9702]

35 minutes ago, Andrew said:

How do these people manage to keep going for more than a single window? Its so blatantly all made up

Casey is another Big Frank type IMO. Only he accidentally guessed something right once, got stuck on SSN and a bunch of podcasts and is now in way too deep. He's the Donnie Brasco of parody accounts.

[wykikitoon 20110]

Is at it again

 

 

 

If he stays no doubt it will be 'aye well things changed and arsenal pulled out' 

[MMXXVIII 1293]

28 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Is at it again

 

 

 

If he stays no doubt it will be 'aye well things changed and arsenal pulled out' 

 

His fatha should have.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3887]

1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

Is at it again

 

 

 

If he stays no doubt it will be 'aye well things changed and arsenal pulled out' 

Tbh if they want to spunk £100m on a player they don’t need then fuck em.

[wykikitoon 20110]

https://www.instagram.com/stories/brunoguimaraes/3363503630245712457?igsh=MXhwYTAyMWtyemp4ZQ==

 

What a beautiful human being this man is. 

[RobElliott 1485]

Nice of him to take Ryan Frazer and Matt Ritchie out for lunch!

[Gemmill 44802]

 

 

 

 

 

[Gemmill 44802]

 

 

 

 

[Gemmill 44802]

If we do firm up an interest in Solanke, that stat will be a big part of why we're interested. 

[wykikitoon 20110]