Toonpack 8748 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 He won't take it, he likes the day to day manager stuff, he'd lose what makes him tick. Few years maybe, but way too soon just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29551 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 40 minutes ago, Dougle said: Howe will be next England manager whether Southgate walks now or in a couple of years’ time. The FA may well be run by a bunch of arseholes but howay it does not take a genius to spot that they would want the obvious best of the bunch What gives you any indication that he’d want the job right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think Howe would only take the job once he’s achieved his ambitions as a club manager. It would almost be like retirement taking it now. Give it Brucey. I believe he's currently available… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 31721 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 With Bruce's wealth of experience it should be a no brainer him getting it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41366 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Even with only 4 weeks graft a year, you just know the bloat would take a holiday during training. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco 735 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 No chance he'd take it.......its a different ball game now he's manager of the richest club in the world not a run of the mill club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3236 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, ewerk said: What gives you any indication that he’d want the job right now? Nothing. That is not my point. I made that clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco 735 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Southgate is a dull bastard playing boring football fuck knows why anybody would give him a decent job in premiership......people got hyped up after beating Iran but lets face it we were shite against USA beat a welsh pub team and an average Senagal team first, tough game we got beat. Pickford should have saved first goal, Kane was average and should be shot for missing penalty, but i dont give a fuck really lets get back to the important stuff that is all things NUFC ending the season on a high and sign Maddison Edited December 12, 2022 by Rosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10733 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) I think Southgate will stay despite the flack he has received over the last year or so, because, as has been said, he is England through and through and knows that if he goes there is no one to take over now. Also, don't think Eddie would be interested now. Stevie G is available, though Edited December 13, 2022 by RobinRobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13621 Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 Remember when Charnley contacted the Spanish FA before the 2018 World Cup and asked if they wanted Rafa on a temporary basis? Presumably in the hope he’d have a good tournament and they’d pay to get him out of Ashley’s hair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10733 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Probably the first time Penfold actually took the initiative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29551 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Howmanheyman said: With Bruce's wealth of experience it should be a no brainer him getting it. It's hard to believe but he was interviewed for the job just before they gave it to Allardyce. The FA also wanted to interview a plucky, young and upcoming manager named Eddie Howe but he refused the interview because he was loyal to his club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10459 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Dougle making a strong case for Bed Wetter in Chief. The Grand High Poobah of Bed-Wetterstan No chance of Howe taking the England job any time soon, man. A. Howe's at the beginning of a project and he's clearly enjoying it. B. That project is backed by huge funds, so Eddie's got a real chance of creating a legacy, as he did at Bournemouth. C. The ambitions of the owners are boundless, so managerial and club honours are a real possibility. D. Howe's spoken warmly and often about working daily with players, developing them over time. Something he can't do with an international side. E. Howe's preferred style requires regular drilling, the kind of high intensity, highly intelligent pressing cannot be achieved without almost constant maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21349 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 klopp and pep would be good appointments. both successful managers, both know the english game and players. both play attractive, front foot football. does it have to be another englishman? i don't think so if the right foreign coach could be tempted to take the job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21349 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Fish said: Dougle making a strong case for Bed Wetter in Chief. The Grand High Poobah of Bed-Wetterstan No chance of Howe taking the England job any time soon, man. A. Howe's at the beginning of a project and he's clearly enjoying it. B. That project is backed by huge funds, so Eddie's got a real chance of creating a legacy, as he did at Bournemouth. C. The ambitions of the owners are boundless, so managerial and club honours are a real possibility. D. Howe's spoken warmly and often about working daily with players, developing them over time. Something he can't do with an international side. E. Howe's preferred style requires regular drilling, the kind of high intensity, highly intelligent pressing cannot be achieved without almost constant maintenance. F. southgate hasn't even resigned yet. and if we win the euros, maybe he'll fancy a final crack at the following world cup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29551 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: klopp and pep would be good appointments. both successful managers, both know the english game and players. both play attractive, front foot football. does it have to be another englishman? i don't think so if the right foreign coach could be tempted to take the job. I think there's more chance of us appointing Pep with Klopp as his assistant than England of getting either of them. Edited December 13, 2022 by ewerk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21349 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, ewerk said: I think there's no chance of us appointing Pep with Klopp as his assistant than England of getting either of them. why not? both have been in their jobs for ages, both have won pretty much everything there is to win at club level. is international management no longer box to tick in the career of the best managers if the price is right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29551 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 No, it's definitely no longer the pinnacle of a management career. As someone pointed out earlier, take a look at the managers at the WC, they aren't exactly the creme de le creme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19360 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: klopp and pep would be good appointments. both successful managers, both know the english game and players. both play attractive, front foot football. does it have to be another englishman? i don't think so if the right foreign coach could be tempted to take the job. Apparently Brazil want Pep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19360 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I heard again on the wireless this morning that Southgate has more wins in knockout football in the last 48 years than the others combined. So I had a check. To keep things consistent I didnt include the Nations League. Not that it would make a difference as we've been wank in it. Southgate 2018 World Cup - 2 Wins - Knocked out by Croatia in the Semi's (32 Teams) 2020 Europeans - 3 Wins - Beaten in Final by Italians (24 Teams) 2022 World Cup - 1 Win - Knocked out by France in the Quarters (32 Teams) Total - 6 Wins in knockout games. Hodgson 2012 Europeans - Knocked out at first knockout (quarters) by Italy (16 Teams) 2014 World Cup - Failed at group stage (32 Teams) 2016 Europeans - Knocked out at first knockout by Iceland (24 Teams) Total - 0 Wins in knockout games (Others wins 0 v 6) Capello 2010 Europeans - Knocked out at first knockout by Iceland (24 Teams) Total - 0 Wins in knockout games (0 v 6) Sven 2002 World Cup - 1 Win - Knocked out by Brazil in the Quarters (32 Teams) 2004 Europeans - Knocked out at first knockout (quarters) by Portugal (16 Teams) 2006 World Cup - 1 Win - Knocked out by Portugal in the Quarters (32 Teams) Total - 2 wins in knockout games (2 v 6) Keegan 2000 Europeans - Failed in group (16 Teams) Total - 0 wins in knockout games (2 v 6) Hoddle 1998 World Cup - Knocked out at first knockout by Argies (32 Teams) Total - 0 Wins in knockout games (2 v 6) Venebles 1996 Europeans - 1 Win - Knocked out by Germany in the Semis (16 Teams) Total - 1 Wins in knockout Games (3 v 6) Taylor 1992 Europeans - Failed in group (8 Teams) Total - 2 Wins in knockout Games (4 v 6) Robson 1986 World Cup - 1 Win - Knocked out in Quarters by Cheating Argie Cunts (24 Teams) 1988 Europeans - Failed in group (8 teams) 1990 World Cup - 2 Wins - Knocked out in by Germany in the Semis (24 Teams) Total 3 Wins in knockout Games (6 v 6) Greenwood 1980 Europeans - Failed in group (8 teams) 1982 World Cup - Failed in group (24 Teams) Total 0 Wins in Knockout Games (6 v 6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21349 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, ewerk said: No, it's definitely no longer the pinnacle of a management career. As someone pointed out earlier, take a look at the managers at the WC, they aren't exactly the creme de le creme. yeah maybe not, but if you've won multiple titles, winning a world cup or euros is still a nice addition to the cv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15162 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 On 30/11/2022 at 09:16, wykikitoon said: That's a very interesting read that. Thanks for the share, Im going to go get the latest WSC at lunch now Yeah, sorry about that... 😬 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 10733 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: No, it's definitely no longer the pinnacle of a management career. As someone pointed out earlier, take a look at the managers at the WC, they aren't exactly the creme de le creme. Indeed. It's a semi-retirement job for good coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21349 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 i still find it hard to believe that sam fucking allardyce was the best the fa could muster before they stumbled upon southgate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10459 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i still find it hard to believe that sam fucking allardyce was the best the fa could muster before they stumbled upon southgate I don't think it's surprising at all that Allardyce was seen as a good choice at the time, considering who was making the decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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