RobinRobin 11270 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 10 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Fuck. Me. My cousin just got his Bouzouki out 🙄 Hope that's not a euphemism 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20141 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: Hope that's not a euphemism I wish it was 😂😂 it would have been better than the music. For some mad reason I'm not hanging out of my arse so that's a win! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11270 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: I wish it was 😂😂 it would have been better than the music. That was an afterthought. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 8 hours ago, OTF said: That sounds dreadful. He'll have access to an EU passport and possible retirement in the South of France. Sounds okay to me tbh. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Renton said: He'll have access to an EU passport and possible retirement in the South of France. Sounds okay to me tbh. I have access to an EU passport and no need to hang out with the French. Edited December 11, 2022 by OTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginolaandtonic 169 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 In the cold light of day we are a joke. We have got used to thinking of success as not winning a tournament when by the law of averages we really should have in the last 56 years. We beat Iran, Wales and Senegal and drew with the USA. It’s crap to think of that as something to be proud of. Success is about finding a way to win. It can be pretty or it can be dirty but we just don’t have it when it matters. France will win this and if they do it will be their fourth major trophy in just over 20 years. We shouldn’t settle for it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20141 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ginolaandtonic said: In the cold light of day we are a joke. We have got used to thinking of success as not winning a tournament when by the law of averages we really should have in the last 56 years. We beat Iran, Wales and Senegal and drew with the USA. It’s crap to think of that as something to be proud of. Success is about finding a way to win. It can be pretty or it can be dirty but we just don’t have it when it matters. France will win this and if they do it will be their fourth major trophy in just over 20 years. We shouldn’t settle for it. Southgate is our version of Martinez. A great pool of talent and will win fuck all because when things need changing he's clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco 759 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Ginolaandtonic said: In the cold light of day we are a joke. We have got used to thinking of success as not winning a tournament when by the law of averages we really should have in the last 56 years. We beat Iran, Wales and Senegal and drew with the USA. It’s crap to think of that as something to be proud of. Success is about finding a way to win. It can be pretty or it can be dirty but we just don’t have it when it matters. France will win this and if they do it will be their fourth major trophy in just over 20 years. We shouldn’t settle for it. To much was made of the 6-2 win v Iran / and a draw against the hard to beat USA🤣....our first tough game was last night and we failed I'm sick of hearing the normal rolled out shit "there are no easy games".........yes there is if you play your strongest/best team and up for it People say USA were ranked 16th Iran 20th......its bollocks once you get past the top 10 the rest are 2nd/3rd rate teams who shouldnt reach the last 4/8 Edited December 11, 2022 by Rosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7027 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: Southgate is our version of Martinez. A great pool of talent and will win fuck all because when things need changing he's clueless. If he's our Martinez then I dread to think what every manager we've had since Robson has been? We outplayed the reigning champions and tournament favourites, and save for a bottling Kane we probably would have edged that in extra time. Mbappe barely had a sniff. Would be mental to get rid of Southgate. Belgium/Germany/Spain/Italy would snap your hand off for the tournament we've had 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44879 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Agree with KD but I think Southgate might walk. He didn't sound like he was relishing the idea of Euros qualification in his interview last night. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17260 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 If he’s as self aware and intelligent as he appears he might well go. Who’s also going to be in the twilight of their international careers this morning? Kane Walker Dier Trippier Henderson McGuire Reece James in for Tripps Walker is in a way “irreplaceable” as he covers two positions Dier..any one of half a dozen centre backs could replace him Kalvin Phillips for Henderson McGuire is only 29 so may be around for the Euros, same as Kane.. So it’s not a massive rebuild required immediately and there’s other players able to step up, Maddison, Ben Chilwell etc. Think Rashford will be the captain at the next World Cup. The biggest trouble England have is who replaces Southgate & when, he’s contracted till the next Euros . Whether someone is taken into the St George’s Park set up and prepared for the role now am not sure but that is the way the likes of Germany and France would do it, but that does mean it could well be Steven Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Yeah, I think he might decide it’s time to move on / for some fresh ideas. He’s dove an excellent job all in all. There only one team that can win a World Cup every four years. Which I know is an obvious thing to say but one bit of bad luck / missed opportunity / a small error a can see you exit as that’s the nature of tournament football. I think the overly cautious approach in the final of the euros was much more of a missed opportunity than last night. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Only 18 months until the Euros and he is contracted till then. He'll stay I reckon. I kind of agree with both J69 and Ginolaandtonic. England played well, but at the end of the day they rarely beat anyone of note. Southgate is blessed by having 3 things, a good pool of talent to draw on, said pool of talent are cohesive, and the quality of other teams is exceptionally poor at the minute. He deserves credit for the middle point, but loses that somewhat on tactics and use of subs imo. England have never had a better chance of winning a major tournament but ultimately are blowing it. It might not come back again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33206 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 12 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said: On the bright side I saw the UK's biggest Christmas tree tonight There's an even bigger one in Boldon. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougle 3329 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Southgate will jack it now. And then the pressure on wor Eddie will start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Southgate is our version of Martinez. A great pool of talent and will win fuck all because when things need changing he's clueless. harsh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Renton said: Only 18 months until the Euros and he is contracted till then. He'll stay I reckon. I kind of agree with both J69 and Ginolaandtonic. England played well, but at the end of the day they rarely beat anyone of note. Southgate is blessed by having 3 things, a good pool of talent to draw on, said pool of talent are cohesive, and the quality of other teams is exceptionally poor at the minute. He deserves credit for the middle point, but loses that somewhat on tactics and use of subs imo. England have never had a better chance of winning a major tournament but ultimately are blowing it. It might not come back again. We’re doomed to never win anything from now until the end of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5223 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Who cares anyway, Newcastle will win something eventually and none of this will even be a blip on the radar in comparison. England tried their best but IMO Southgate doesn't really have a system or style of play so if the players can't just 'make stuff happen' then we don't go anywhere. We also just don't know/understand/have it ingrained into us how to win when we need to dig deep. No shame going out to France, and even if we had somehow won, we don't have the stones to actually win the thing even if we were up against San Marino in the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21923 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 Southgate has been rightly criticised for his cautious approach and the way he favours certain players who have performed for him in the past rather than picking on form. There are frustrations there watching his England team and at times I’m screaming at the telly for him to make a sub earlier or bring on Maddison or TAA instead of Mason bloody Mount. But honestly, he’s done a brilliant job. Best England manager since Alf Ramsey. Yeah, hasn’t got everything right he had talented group of players but so did Robson, El Tel, Keegan, Sven and Capello - and he did better than the lot of them. His biggest achievement was making me care about the national team again. I didn’t think it was possible tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Who cares anyway, Newcastle will win something eventually and none of this will even be a blip on the radar in comparison. This is my only concern. The irrational part of my mind has linked the England hoodoo since 66 with our own since 69. Break one and the other will also break. I mean I know this patently bollocks, but then football is one of the few things I still have demonstrably nonsense beliefs in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 I think Howay was spot on. I’d be amazed if Howe took it at this stage. This is an absolutely incredible opportunity for a manager at NUFC at this time. When you look at what he’s built already and the potential to almost buy who he wants and take the team, club, city along with him. It’s a dream job, once in a lifetime chance. Of course the England job is massive and I’m not saying the Newcastle job is bigger at present but it’s very different to what he’s got here. He seems to thrive on the day to day stuff too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35082 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renton said: This is my only concern. The irrational part of my mind has linked the England hoodoo since 66 with our own since 69. Break one and the other will also break. I mean I know this patently bollocks, but then football is one of the few things I still have demonstrably nonsense beliefs in. Match should’ve been on the bbc where England have a far better record. I know this is bollocks too but part of me believes it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21625 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: But honestly, he’s done a brilliant job. Best England manager since Alf Ramsey. Yeah, hasn’t got everything right he had talented group of players but so did Robson, El Tel, Keegan, Sven and Capello - and he did better than the lot of them. Hold on though, they're a completely different set of players as is the opposition. You can't make the counterfactual. Consider what Southgate achieved as a manager before the England job, fuck all. Similarly, do you really think Robson wouldn't have won a major trophy with the present crop? I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 42444 Posted December 11, 2022 Share Posted December 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Renton said: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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