Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Monkeys Fist 44088]

Keegan and Howe, whilst vastly different in terms of personality and methods, are both in the same bracket for me as far as club standing is concerned. 
 

Keegan’s managerial achievements here are rightly revered- it was his first management job, and he took us from the brink of oblivion to the brink of ecstasy. 
It can’t be overstated how he utterly transformed this club -yes, SJH’s money was a necessary factor, and he deserves some credit, but without Keegan none of it would have happened. 
The sheer joy and pride he instigated, not just in the club but about the city in general, was incredible and we’re still reaping the benefits of it. 
Given the precarious position we were in when he came, to do it by employing a stingy, defensive approach would’ve been eminently sensible and understandable. 

But, no - fuck that! 

He virtually wrote the definition of cavalier football- “ ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!” 
Ultimately, for a multitude of reasons, he didn’t get us that elusive trophy we absolutely deserved under him, but…

 

… It doesn’t matter. His place in our history is assured and thoroughly deserved. 

I fucking love the bloke. 
 

Eddie came in with the club in a similar situation at first- The Cabbage had sucked any joy out of both the fans and the players, and we were only heading in one direction- that’s not even open to debate. 
The joy of the takeover was very much tempered by the stench of Bruce stinking up the place, until he got ditched. 
 

If we’re honest, most of us were probably a little underwhelmed when Eddie was announced as gaffer, and the players he inherited were so unfit, uninterested and uncoached it’s no surprise he struggled to get the first win under his belt, but then…

 

…in four months from him taking over, he got us 20 points from 14 games, finished 11th, becoming the first team in PL history not to be relegated having not  won their first 14 games. 
Like Keegan, he gave us back the pride and the joy of not only our club, but our city. 
He’s done it differently, but no less remarkably- his transformation of BUJ07 from a figure of ridicule in to FUCKING THANOS remains for me his greatest achievement so far, but he’s gone about transforming the club, the players, our style, our respect and standing, and crucially, our expectations in a manner that no one else but Keegan has done. 

The thing that excites me about Howe is that I totally believe his best is yet to come with us. 
 

Keegan’s place in our hearts is cemented in and assured, Howe’s has absolutely rock-solid foundations but is still being built on. 
 

And I fucking love the bloke. 

[Monkeys Fist 44088]

Also, whilst swerving the standers v filthmongers debate, @LondonBlue has potentially opened another civil war with the pissing question? 
 

 

[LondonBlue 900]

47 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Keegan and Howe, whilst vastly different in terms of personality and methods, are both in the same bracket for me as far as club standing is concerned. 
 

Keegan’s managerial achievements here are rightly revered- it was his first management job, and he took us from the brink of oblivion to the brink of ecstasy. 
It can’t be overstated how he utterly transformed this club -yes, SJH’s money was a necessary factor, and he deserves some credit, but without Keegan none of it would have happened. 
The sheer joy and pride he instigated, not just in the club but about the city in general, was incredible and we’re still reaping the benefits of it. 
Given the precarious position we were in when he came, to do it by employing a stingy, defensive approach would’ve been eminently sensible and understandable. 

But, no - fuck that! 

He virtually wrote the definition of cavalier football- “ ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!” 
Ultimately, for a multitude of reasons, he didn’t get us that elusive trophy we absolutely deserved under him, but…

 

… It doesn’t matter. His place in our history is assured and thoroughly deserved. 

I fucking love the bloke. 
 

Eddie came in with the club in a similar situation at first- The Cabbage had sucked any joy out of both the fans and the players, and we were only heading in one direction- that’s not even open to debate. 
The joy of the takeover was very much tempered by the stench of Bruce stinking up the place, until he got ditched. 
 

If we’re honest, most of us were probably a little underwhelmed when Eddie was announced as gaffer, and the players he inherited were so unfit, uninterested and uncoached it’s no surprise he struggled to get the first win under his belt, but then…

 

…in four months from him taking over, he got us 20 points from 14 games, finished 11th, becoming the first team in PL history not to be relegated having not  won their first 14 games. 
Like Keegan, he gave us back the pride and the joy of not only our club, but our city. 
He’s done it differently, but no less remarkably- his transformation of BUJ07 from a figure of ridicule in to FUCKING THANOS remains for me his greatest achievement so far, but he’s gone about transforming the club, the players, our style, our respect and standing, and crucially, our expectations in a manner that no one else but Keegan has done. 

The thing that excites me about Howe is that I totally believe his best is yet to come with us. 
 

Keegan’s place in our hearts is cemented in and assured, Howe’s has absolutely rock-solid foundations but is still being built on. 
 

And I fucking love the bloke. 

 

this is kinda how i think.

i'm not a fan of comparisons. city fans like to compare Fernandinho and Rodri, not me. I love them both and am grateful for both have given to my club.

I hate the debates of is X better than Y when both X and Y are/were awesome (not to say i don't jump in feet first occasionally).

Sometimes its easy, Rodri v Viniscius is Rodri all day for me as i think Viniscius us a nasty piece of work.

Messi vs the Tranny is not so easy, 2 great players with one having a penchant for women's clothes.

Foden vs Saka not so easy as they are both great players. Sure Foden has contributed to a lot of silverware including being standout in the U17 World Cup. But Foden has been surrounded by great players, wheras Saka has had to make do with Arsenal players,

 

Keegan was great. Great to watch. But Howe might well bring the silverware. I would be more than happy if Howe rocked up as City manager in a couple of years (doubt he will).

 

Would be curious to have seen yester years Keegan follow Pep.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Isegrim 10111]

There is no manager comparable to Keegan in regards to the ability of making people dream and believe and creating emotional joy.

Howe is the absolute perfect manager, probably better in the understanding of the necessities of the modern game. He might share a lot of the ideas with Keegan how to approach the game. But he is a much more modest person so is not as capable of touching people’s emotions.

[Optimistic Nut 345]

25 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

There is no manager comparable to Keegan in regards to the ability of making people dream and believe and creating emotional joy.

Howe is the absolute perfect manager, probably better in the understanding of the necessities of the modern game. He might share a lot of the ideas with Keegan how to approach the game. But he is a much more modest person so is not as capable of touching people’s emotions.

 

This could have been a Keegan quote tbf mind.

 

"I've got no issues with that. That's absolutely what they have to do, and I want the environment and the atmosphere here to be as good as it can be for us and as hard as it can be for the opposition. The supporters were magnificent today, and they have been for a long time now. Absolutely, dream.". 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14381]

You’re right but it was all in Keegan’s delivery. Howe is a lot more restrained and considered in public. He’s obviously different in the changing room, like since the way we fly out of the traps in some games is absolutely Keegan-esque

[Howmanheyman 35037]

Keegan is number one and always will be. Love Eddie and think he could be the perfect manager for this club now but KK's first two full seasons were something else, he was also ruthless with players when he wanted an upgrade. The club we have today isn't there in if there's no Keegan, it's as simple as that. Even in his half season at the beginning he called Hall's bluff about the money as he had that pull and leverage, the absolute wasteland we were in as a club cannot be understated, it's a daft thing but I think it our filth win in a row in the promotion year where in a two nil v Luton my breath was taken away with the kind of football which only months earlier would have been unthinkable, the way his team just laughed at the new back pass rule whilst others were genuinely doing re-enactments early twentieth century keystone cop acts was another thing I loved, the way he ruthlessly sold his top scorer to get Beardsley who he knew would be perfect for his relatively unknown signing Andy Cole was genius, still to this day the PL's most successful goalscoring partnership, (not that you'd know it by sky), to escape relegation to the third, to piss the league the year after then third in your first season back whilst playing brilliant football was a joy to see, he never moaned about refs, never moaned full stop, always gave credit to the other team and was the perfect ambassador for the club, we were in the doldrums and then it was champagne style. Like I say, NUFC now isn't possible without KK. 

[strawb 4522]

We should just have Kulusevski off roflham lolspurs when they go down