thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: The general sentiment is that Howe is the best manager we've had in the PL era. is it? not by me it's not. he's got a fucking ocean to cross before he's even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as keegan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 1019 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: is it? not by me it's not. he's got a fucking ocean to cross before he's even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as keegan. Oooh, he was great for us too. You never knew, week to week if you would win 4-0 or lose 0-4. the only thing you could be sure of was goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49267 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Howe is the better coach than Keegan. Keegan resurrected the place and the club, but if you're asking me who I'd pick to run the club long term, it's Howe. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 1019 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Rayvin said: The general sentiment is that Howe is the best manager we've had in the PL era. I don't think we could go and replace him very easily at all. He's a hands on coach who brings the best out of his players, and is smart enough to tweak and develop tactical systems to suit our abilities. He understands the city and fanbase well, speaks eloquently and doesn't get drawn into any of the petty bullshit that other managers seem to. In my view, Howe is more or less carrying the club on his own at the moment. Lemme put it this way, I wouldn't swap him for Pep. And I think Pep is the better manager from a footballing standpoint. I get that. But then I wouldn't swap him for Pep either. I want Pep to stay forever. Be interesting to see how Eddie would do with City's squad and City's budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 23 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: Oooh, he was great for us too. You never knew, week to week if you would win 4-0 or lose 0-4. the only thing you could be sure of was goals. 21 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Howe is the better coach than Keegan. Keegan resurrected the place and the club, but if you're asking me who I'd pick to run the club long term, it's Howe. he took us from the brink of relegation to the 3rd division for the first time in our history to rampant runaway champions the next season. he finished 3rd in the premier league the next season playing breathtaking football, qualifying for europe for the first time in 2 decades. finished 6th the next season and runners up the following one ro a man utd team managed by the premier league greatest manager (the whisky soaked scottish cunt). we were unlucky to come up against that man utd team, keegan didn't blow it. he was the catalyst for transforming the ground from a barren, sparsely populated shithole in to modern, sold out, 2nd biggest stadium in the country. honestly man, howe isn't fit to lace his boots, I hope he goes on to warrant comparison. but as it stands, to suggest he does is nothing short of fucking outrageous. in my opinion. Edited January 24 by thebrokendoll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23385 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 43 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: is it? not by me it's not. he's got a fucking ocean to cross before he's even fit to be mentioned in the same breath as keegan. you could get a fag paper between their win percentages 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23385 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 23 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: he took us from the brink of relegation to the 3rd division for the first time in our history to rampant runaway champions the next season. he finished 3rd in the premier league the next season playing breathtaking football, qualifying for europe for the first time in 2 decades. finished 6th the next season and runners up the following one ro a man utd team managed by the premier league greatest manager (the whisky soaked scottish cunt). we were unlucky to come up against that man utd team, keegan didn't blow it. he was the catalyst for transforming the ground from a barren, sparsely populated shithole in to modern, sold out, 2nd biggest stadium in the country. honestly man, howe isn't fit to lace his boots, I hope he goes on to warrant comparison. but as it stands, to suggest he does is nothing short of fucking outrageous. in my opinion. all of this is true, but keegan wouldn't last a second in the modern game, which i think is the point gemmill is making. have you heard steve howay talk about their coaching sessions? there was zero tactical information. he just assembled a squad of flair players and they played 5 a side. one of the greatest motivational managers of all time, and a club legend, no doubt but howe is the right manager for this era. if he goes on to win the league cup, he'll have a statue outside the ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: all of this is true, but keegan wouldn't last a second in the modern game, which i think is the point gemmill is making. have you heard steve howay talk about their coaching sessions? there was zero tactical information. he just assembled a squad of flair players and they played 5 a side. one of the greatest motivational managers of all time, and a club legend, no doubt but howe is the right manager for this era. if he goes on to win the league cup, he'll have a statue outside the ground. if we win the league cup and a statue appears of howe I'd walk away from this shit show forever.. anybody who even think there's a genuine comparison between keegan and howe has no grasp whatsoever of how low this club had sunk during the 80s, the glorious exception to that decade? when keegan played for us. Edited January 24 by thebrokendoll 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36158 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: all of this is true, but keegan wouldn't last a second in the modern game, which i think is the point gemmill is making. have you heard steve howay talk about their coaching sessions? there was zero tactical information. he just assembled a squad of flair players and they played 5 a side. one of the greatest motivational managers of all time, and a club legend, no doubt but howe is the right manager for this era. if he goes on to win the league cup, he'll have a statue outside the ground. Equally Howe would've been fucked in that era. Players weren't up for soppy videos, hugs etc and expressions of love every press conference. You can't compare eras really. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18799 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 28 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: he took us from the brink of relegation to the 3rd division for the first time in our history to rampant runaway champions the next season. he finished 3rd in the premier league the next season playing breathtaking football, qualifying for europe for the first time in 2 decades. finished 6th the next season and runners up the following one ro a man utd team managed by the premier league greatest manager (the whisky soaked scottish cunt). we were unlucky to come up against that man utd team, keegan didn't blow it. he was the catalyst for transforming the ground from a barren, sparsely populated shithole in to modern, sold out, 2nd biggest stadium in the country. honestly man, howe isn't fit to lace his boots, I hope he goes on to warrant comparison. but as it stands, to suggest he does is nothing short of fucking outrageous. in my opinion. Agreed. But then you’re got Eddie parking his car over the water meter manhole at Dean Court to stop the ground being cut off when they were staring relegation to the conference in the face….hes very largely responsible for taking that club to the premier league in 5 seasons…. Theyre very different personalities and wildly different in regards to their playing careers but they are both the most important figures in the modern history of each club… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, PaddockLad said: Agreed. But then you’re got Eddie parking his car over the water meter manhole at Dean Court to stop the ground being cut off when they were staring relegation to the conference in the face….hes very largely responsible for taking that club to the premier league in 5 seasons…. Theyre very different personalities and wildly different in regards to their playing careers but they are both the most important figures in the modern history of each club… with the greatest respect to you mate, and the town you live in. I don't give a flying fuck about bournemouth fc. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36158 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Agreed. But then you’re got Eddie parking his car over the water meter manhole at Dean Court to stop the ground being cut off when they were staring relegation to the conference in the face….hes very largely responsible for taking that club to the premier league in 5 seasons…. Theyre very different personalities and wildly different in regards to their playing careers but they are both the most important figures in the modern history of each club… 5 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: with the greatest respect to you mate, and the town you live in. I don't give a flying fuck about bournemouth fc. TBD: "Here's the amount of fucks I give about Bournemouth football club. Nothing." 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Howmanheyman said: TBD: "Here's the amount of fucks I give about Bournemouth football club. Nothing." they really badly spoilt my saturday last weekend. the sooner they fuck off back to the 4th division the better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18799 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 8 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: with the greatest respect to you mate, and the town you live in. I don't give a flying fuck about bournemouth fc. I know. IHe’ll have to win a trophy to be viewed in the same bracket as Keegan. But I was making the point they are very similar figures … I live in Poole btw. I’d like it if you could take a bit more care of your geographical assumptions tbh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 1019 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 oh no what have i done? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: if we win the league cup and a statue appears of howe I'd walk away from this shit show forever.. anybody who even think there's a genuine comparison between keegan and howe has no grasp whatsoever of how low this club had sunk during the 80s, the glorious exception to that decade? when keegan played for us. Howe of course did manage to take us from the brink of relegation from the PL to top 4 in the following season with largely the same group of players - and I'll plead ignorance to the 80s as I wasn't alive for half of it. I'm not really saying Howe is a club legend or anything here mind, so I'm not comparing him to Keegan on that front. But as a manager, I (and others) have actually said this a few times and general sentiment has been supportive, hence my comment. Fair enough though, doesn't speak for everyone I loved Keegan too btw, I'm not really laying waste to him with the statement - just observing that Howe has genuinely been that good for us that I think he warrants inclusion in the same breath personally in terms of his actual abilities as a manager. Not what he has achieved, per se. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36158 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: they really badly spoilt my saturday last weekend. the sooner they fuck off back to the 4th division the better. Used to be the W's, Watford, Wigan and Wimbledon etc, now it's B's, Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton. Fair play to them but they can fuck off tbh. Edited January 24 by Howmanheyman 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5889 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, LondonBlue said: oh no what have i done? Fostered some lively debate 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10155 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Just now, PaddockLad said: I know. IHe’ll have to win a trophy to be viewed in the same bracket as Keegan. But I was making the point they are very similar figures … I live in Poole btw. I’d like it if you could take a bit more care of your geographical assumptions tbh sorry. I still remember when I first joined this board you saying you lived next door to callum wilson.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23385 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 26 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: if we win the league cup and a statue appears of howe I'd walk away from this shit show forever.. anybody who even think there's a genuine comparison between keegan and howe has no grasp whatsoever of how low this club had sunk during the 80s, the glorious exception to that decade? when keegan played for us. I lived in Newcastle during that era and I remember keegan as fondly as you do. The whole town was buzzing when the entertainers were in their pomp. I was a teenager at the time and fell in love with the bloke. The thing that evaded Keegan which could elevate Howe in how they’re regarded in the history books is silverware. Edited January 24 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36158 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: oh no what have i done? Yee can fuck off, anaahl. /TBD 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36158 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said: sorry. I still remember when I first joined this board you saying you lived next door to callum wilson.. That's Wykiki now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18799 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: oh no what have i done? No worries mate, it’s just the usual internecine TT warfare over the most trivial shit you’ve ever heard…do you stand up to wipe your arse btw? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18799 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: sorry. I still remember when I first joined this board you saying you lived next door to callum wilson.. Yeah at the time you lived in Gloucestershire next to a Gymkhana and no doubt several minor members of the aristocracy who inhabit them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23385 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 30 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Equally Howe would've been fucked in that era. Players weren't up for soppy videos, hugs etc and expressions of love every press conference. You can't compare eras really. you’re right, we can’t compare eras. doesn’t stop us from doing it though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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