Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Toonpack 11343]

If their identified target players aren't available, they won't spend.

[thebrokendoll 10241]

the best money we could spend this month would be to double isak's wages.

[Optimistic Nut 468]

13 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

Or Big Joe out right and Miley into MF (maybe) if Murphy crocked.

 

I've fancied seeing if we could turn Tino into a right-sided Bale. Has the physical attributes. 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

20 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Hope says it's bye bye for Miggy. This is good news and good money. Even if we don't replace him, he basically offers nothing there anyway. You could move Tino up the line and put Trippier in at right back at a push. 

 

😀

 

Of course he offers something.  He is very rusty at the moment but is good in the press and his build up play is fine. He is just a bad finisher. Livramento as RW won't work.

[Dr Gloom 23600]

20 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Hope says it's bye bye for Miggy. This is good news and good money. Even if we don't replace him, he basically offers nothing there anyway. You could move Tino up the line and put Trippier in at right back at a push. 

 

so you're not okay with us having five specialists CBs to cover two positions, but you're happy with a single specialist RW. 

 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

 

so you're not okay with us having five specialists CBs to cover two positions, but you're happy with a single specialist RW. 

 

 

A single bang average RW who is currently in a purple patch.

[Gemmill 49835]

The Logic Lads are out in force again. Is it that some of you CAN'T think or you just DON'T? 

[Dr Gloom 23600]

Just now, Holden McGroin said:

 

A single bang average RW who is currently in a purple patch.

 

tbf to murphy, and i've been his biggest critic, he has been playing out of his skin. if this is a purple patch, it's his longest yet. i think he's benefitting from a run of games in a confident team. his shirt to lose, but RW remains the weakest area of the squad. if we do sell miggy and fail to replace him, and murphy does his ACL, it's square pegs in round holes at RW for the run in 

[Gemmill 49835]

Player who we are desperate to sell and have been for 3 windows now vs player we have shown no inclination of wanting to sell before the bid came in yesterday. 

 

The Logic Lads: ITS THE SAME FING! 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

 

tbf to murphy, and i've been his biggest critic, he has been playing out of his skin. if this is a purple patch, it's his longest yet. i think he's benefitting from a run of games in a confident team. his shirt to lose, but RW remains the weakest area of the squad. if we do sell miggy and fail to replace him, and murphy does his ACL, it's square pegs in round holes at RW for the run in 

 

Im sure we can just play a random player out of position there and everything will be absolutely fine...

[Dr Gloom 23600]

Just now, Gemmill said:

The Logic Lads are out in force again. Is it that some of you CAN'T think or you just DON'T? 

 

i hate to break it to you, but your opinion of where the squad's vulnerabilities lie is 

 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

Just now, Gemmill said:

Player who we are desperate to sell and have been for 3 windows now vs player we have shown no inclination of wanting to sell before the bid came in yesterday. 

 

The Logic Lads: ITS THE SAME FING! 

 

I thought your argument was all about cover and not leaving us short?

 

 

[Gemmill 49835]

1 minute ago, Holden McGroin said:

 

I thought your argument was all about cover and not leaving us short?

 

 

 

We've got people that can fill in and offer just as much as Miggy on the RW. Clubs don't have RW INJURY CRISIS" headlines, do they? They do however have "DEFENSIVE INJURY CRISIS" because it's such a specialised position. There's a physical profile that has to be met, and the player needs to be drilled in that position. 

 

Stick any cunt with one working leg on the wing and they can fill in for 2025 Miguel Almiron. 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

We've got people that can fill in and offer just as much as Miggy on the RW. Clubs don't have RW INJURY CRISIS" headlines, do they? They do however have "DEFENSIVE INJURY CRISIS" because it's such a specialised position. There's a physical profile that has to be met, and the player needs to be drilled in that position. 

 

Stick any cunt with one working leg on the wing and they can fill in for 2025 Miguel Almiron. 

This is astonishing. I mean, we can play Joelinton CB if we need to.  He might not be very good but that doesn’t matter.
 

I understand your  hatred for his right foot and we all want to see him moved on but the squad will be weaker without him. 

[Gemmill 49835]

 

So would you like to keep him then? 

 

I've made my argument, my position is clear. You're turning yourself inside out trying to make out that there's equivalence between the two situations, just to score a point. 

 

We're fucking DESPERATE to sell Miggy. The bid is decent money, and it's from the MLS who have a different season to us so arguably this isn't repeatable in the summer if we wait. 

 

I don't think we lose much at all if he goes, but if you want to argue that the contribution of 2025 Miguel Almiron is somehow something we can't live without, then fine. 

 

I would MUCH prefer that we replaced him this window, and I do think that arguably someone at the club has dropped the ball if he goes and we don't replace him, cos this isn't a bolt out of the blue bid. But let's see what happens. 

[Dr Gloom 23600]

21 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

We've got people that can fill in and offer just as much as Miggy on the RW. Clubs don't have RW INJURY CRISIS" headlines, do they? They do however have "DEFENSIVE INJURY CRISIS" because it's such a specialised position. There's a physical profile that has to be met, and the player needs to be drilled in that position. 

 

Stick any cunt with one working leg on the wing and they can fill in for 2025 Miguel Almiron. 

 

goals win games. murphy has been making and scoring goals in this run from RW. 

 

tino is a great, high energy full back, but he often has a brain fart in the final third. i wouldn't want him to be isak's main supply line from the right. like it or not, RW is a specialist position just as much as CB - we've seen consistently this season that neither gordon nor barnes fancy playing on the right. you'd think they would be capable of doing a job there but both struggled to hit the levels they show in their natural position, that one assist from gordon for that isak header aside. 

 

i doubt howe will be happy to lose miggy if he isn't replaced. it would cripple the depth in out frontline and potentially derail our champions league charge if murphy was to pick up an injury. 

Edited January 16 by Dr Gloom

[Gemmill 49835]

I agree Howe would want him replaced. We all would. I'd still let him go whatever happens this window though, in part cos I would like never to have to see him play for us again. 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

I’m just flabbergasted that you spent all yesterday suggesting we don’t sell our 5th (of about 7) choice CB  because we might be short then sell 1 of our 2 RWs. 😁

 

You’re then trying to back up the argument by saying he hasn’t played well recently (which is true) but this again could be used to beat Kelly with.

 

I guess we just see what Big Mitch does. 

 

[Dr Gloom 23600]

5 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I’m just flabbergasted that you spent all yesterday suggesting we don’t sell our 5th (of about 7) choice CB  because we might be short then sell 1 of our 2 RWs. 😁

 

You’re then trying to back up the argument by saying he hasn’t played well recently (which is true) but this again could be used to beat Kelly with.

 

 

[Toonpack 11343]

30 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I've fancied seeing if we could turn Tino into a right-sided Bale. Has the physical attributes. 

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

[Holden McGroin 7566]

2 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

Aye. He needs to work on his delivery. He seems to get the ball stuck under his feet a lot then dribbles his way out of trouble. He is looking superb defensively though. Big improvement.

[wykikitoon 22774]

12 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I’m just flabbergasted that you spent all yesterday suggesting we don’t sell our 5th (of about 7) choice CB  because we might be short then sell 1 of our 2 RWs. 😁

 

You’re then trying to back up the argument by saying he hasn’t played well recently (which is true) but this again could be used to beat Kelly with.

 

I guess we just see what Big Mitch does. 

 

CB's we have;

Botman (just back from an ACL)
Burn
Schar (currently ill / injured)
Lascelles (currently fucked)
Kelly

We also have;

Krafu who can play there, but is a midget.

 

So we have 6 players for two spots.  One of the players has just come back from an ACL so his game time needs managing and then we have another who's fucked with an ACL and isn't a starter.  Out of them 6 we also have 50% the wrong side of 30 with Krafu edging that way.  Whilst this isn't too much of an issue, return from injury / fatigue plays a bigger role.  Burn has been immense but he's had little rotation.

 

So whilst I don't think Kelly has been too great this season, selling him now without a player to back him up is fucking madness.

On RW we have options that can get us by.  Almiron has played 148' of football in the PL this season, avg of 7' a game.  So can we do without him?  Yes, he's gone.  That should be clear to most.

[Dr Gloom 23600]

10 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

The one thing that irks me (slightly) about Tino is, he can't, or won't, cross the ball and his delivery is poor if he does, he likes a pass backwards as much as Miggy.

I love Tino but if he had trippier’s technical ability he’d be some player 

[Holden McGroin 7566]

You’re still continuing with this?

RCB- Schar

RCB - Lascelles

RCB - Krafu

LCB - Botman

LCB - Burn

LCB-  Kelly

LCB - Alex Murphy (at a push)

 

Kelly might not even make the bench when all CBs are fit.
 

Barnes is injured now. Gordon is being kept on the left as he is wasted on the right.  Miggy has been getting more game time recently because Eddie has worked out everyone he has tried on the RW has unbalanced us. 
 

That’s me done explaining the logic. I’ll let the brains at NUFC decide our fate.

 

 

 

 

[Toonpack 11343]

7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

CB's we have;

Botman (just back from an ACL)
Burn
Schar (currently ill / injured)
Lascelles (currently fucked)
Kelly

We also have;

Krafu who can play there, but is a midget.

 

So we have 6 players for two spots.  One of the players has just come back from an ACL so his game time needs managing and then we have another who's fucked with an ACL and isn't a starter.  Out of them 6 we also have 50% the wrong side of 30 with Krafu edging that way.  Whilst this isn't too much of an issue, return from injury / fatigue plays a bigger role.  Burn has been immense but he's had little rotation.

 

So whilst I don't think Kelly has been too great this season, selling him now without a player to back him up is fucking madness.

On RW we have options that can get us by.  Almiron has played 148' of football in the PL this season, avg of 7' a game.  So can we do without him?  Yes, he's gone.  That should be clear to most.