Toonpack 9907 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: chris waugh was lee ryder's underling. nowt more needs saying. and he moved on because he was a better writer, many folks start off under an utterly shit boss. I read an article and take it on it's merits, but Hope(less) negatively spins everything to the point he's basically a caricature of a journo now, same as Edwards. They're click farmers not reporters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9450 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Toonpack said: and he moved on because he was a better writer, many folks start off under an utterly shit boss. I read an article and take it on it's merits, but Hope(less) negatively spins everything to the point he's basically a caricature of a journo now, same as Edwards. They're click farmers not reporters. I'm merely playing the part of devil's advocate mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4820 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) Pissy pant brigade are out in force I see Think you are all blowing this WAY out of proportion. The days of a Keegan type manager running the show are over if you want to be an elite club. Sure, Eddie Amanda and co have all rolled their sleeves up since the takeover and done very well to get us where we are, but Mitchell is right that we need an elite world wide network that is getting us the likes of Bruno, before he goes to Lyon. Ive said before this window was a perfect storm with Ashworth gone, Amanda going, PSR and Mitchell coming in late. People who seem to know their football stuff very well, insist that we have two first class operators in Eales and Mitchell. I have no doubt whatsoever that next summers window will be a great success. Hopefully Eddie is or gets onboard with the set up as the long term growth of the club, (particularly trying to catch up financial wise), is much more important than any one head coach. Edited September 5 by Christmas Tree 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45996 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Oof when CT is tumble drying your undies, you know you've REALLY gone off on one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45996 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Waiting for point number 2 though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9907 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, toonotl said: This is the article I read. Honestly, I didn't find that much to be up in arms about. There's certainly some tension between Howe and Mitchell. And perhaps Eales too. It could be a toxic power struggle forming. But it could also be the ingredients for a healthy dynamic between them. I guess we'll see. I'm hopeful that it'll work out. I just don't see anything other than a normal adjustment in a big organisation when someone at the top changes, professional people remain professional, it takes quite a while for balance to be found between the old persons ways/strategy and the new broom and before everyone settles down around that. In most organisations it just happens/evolves behind closed doors. But this is a football club with crazy levels of media exposure so folks get asked questions and every answer is dissected and inferences taken. As Gemmill (I think) said, if Eddie thinks he can find a big club with him having total autonomy of decision, he's deluded. That presupposes Eddie even thinks that way to start with, which in itself is supposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9907 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 8 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: I'm merely playing the cunt. FYP 😝 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6781 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Oof when CT is tumble drying your undies, you know you've REALLY gone off on one. You’re backing CT to get something correct? Ballsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 9450 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: People who seem to know their football stuff very well, insist that we have two first class operators in Eales and Mitchell. I heard you were stood at front of the stage holding your cigarette lighter aloft when he was singing at the stack the other week. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45996 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 It's all the lads down south who are getting hysterical about this. Too much smashed avo on toast, I reckon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4820 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Waiting for point number 2 though. This is coming from a lazy soak in the bath. I was rushing to try and get the forum caught up so I could get some Pornhub in while the house is empty. Have that mental imagery with your cornflakes 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 45996 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Just now, Christmas Tree said: This is coming from a lazy soak in the bath. I was rushing to try and get the forum caught up so I could get some Pornhub in while the house is empty. Have that mental imagery with your cornflakes oh god, you lying spent with webs of poached spunk floating all around you. Dear me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9907 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said: This is coming from a lazy soak in the bath. I was rushing to try and get the forum caught up so I could get some Pornhub in while the house is empty. Have that mental imagery with your cornflakes Be warned. from Billy Connolly's autobiography, one of his mates died having a wank in the bath - just sayin'. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6781 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: It's all the lads down south who are getting hysterical about this. Too much smashed avo on toast, I reckon. You don’t have smashed avo without chilli flakes on a fresh sourdough. Peasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6781 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: oh god, you lying spent with webs of poached spunk floating all around you. Dear me. i believe the term is “pearl diving” 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9907 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Just now, Holden McGroin said: You don’t have smashed avo without two poached eggs and hollandaise on a fresh toasted sourdough. Peasant FYP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 45996 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: You don’t have smashed avo without chilli flakes on a fresh sourdough. Peasant Please don't lecture the fabulous baker boy about fresh sourdough. I invented fresh sourdough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4820 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 5 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Be warned. from Billy Connolly's autobiography, one of his mates died having a wank in the bath - just sayin'. Theres worse ways to go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Yeah too many have seen the sensationalised accounts first and (justifiably given the clubs last 20yrs) leapt to the worst case scenario. My read is that the way we were doing things is unsustainable. Either we massively grow our commercial revenue streams so we can afford to buy expensive players and just swallow the cost, or we recruit players before they hit the heights and develop them ourselves, either to use or sell. Or do both at the same time. The issue isn't just recruiting new players for a reasonable price, it's offloading old players without throwing money down the hole. Fraser, Lewis, Hendrick, Hayden, Almiron, Krafth, Lascelles, all of these players would be moved on for decent money if their analogues were at a "Big 6" club. Man Utd helped fund their recruitment by selling off Brown, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba for real cash money, chiefly due to the aura of being a "Man Utd player". Is The Fish saying we need more Minteh's and fewer Frasers? Yeah, we do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 5 minutes ago, The Fish said: Man Utd helped fund their recruitment by selling off Brown, Kleberson, Djemba Djemba for real cash money, chiefly due to the aura of being a "Man Utd player". All sold for a combined £5.5m. You may want to find some better examples. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10962 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 4 minutes ago, ewerk said: All sold for a combined £5.5m. You may want to find some better examples. I'll need you to look at what they paid for them, look what they sold them for, adjust it for football inflation, and then I'm going to need you to get the hell off my fucking back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33819 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Him saying we need to be better at selling is fair enough until you look at what we want to sell, what contract they're on and the chances of selling them, (especially now under PSR) being slim to none. If he wants to point the finger for that then it has to go back to the Ashley regime. Or is he saying we should've bought players in under the level of Bruno etc to let them grow before selling? The long-term aim of development is the way to go but if you can't sell the shite then you have to grow the income till the development takes shape and the shite eventually leaves through not renewing their contracts. Or we sell a diamond with a potential diamond already in place when the polished diamond is sold. Absolutely nobody wants the likes of isak to go so either they up their game on the income front or they get selling the stars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 90 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 44 minutes ago, ewerk said: All sold for a combined £5.5m. You may want to find some better examples. Isn't getting them off the wage bill the major factor here though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31195 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 minutes ago, zico martin said: Isn't getting them off the wage bill the major factor here though? Absolutely. We couldn't give them away with the money they're on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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