Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Ayatollah Hermione 14661]

https://archive.ph/DKs8K
 

Athletic article is ever so slightly more nuanced than Hopey the Shit Stirrer’s

[ewerk 33147]

So the club make an effort to be more transparent and offer the DoF to several local journalists to communicate with the fans and some people are looking at this as a bad thing?

 

FFS, let's go back to the Ashley and Llambias days.

[Holden McGroin 7561]

 

1 minute ago, ewerk said:

 

FFS, let's go back to the Ashley and Llambias days.

Looks like we are heading there regardless. 😉 

 

p.s. I’m not even sure the safety wink is warranted 

[Holden McGroin 7561]

In a nutshell

- it’s Eddie fault -  not his - for only wanting Guehi

- we need to do a lot of work

- we’ve spent a lot of money (although we obviously have £70m burning a hole in our pocket)

- he hasn’t been there long enough to affect anything (maybe the club shouldn’t have let Staveley go until the window shut?!)

 

All sounds rosey to me.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Holden McGroin

[Gemmill 49832]

9 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

https://archive.ph/DKs8K
 

Athletic article is ever so slightly more nuanced than Hopey the Shit Stirrer’s

 

Much better article. Actually feels like a positive event rather than a negative one. 

 

Clearly still work to do on his and Howe's relationship. 

[thebrokendoll 10241]

prefer hope's me like.

[Toonpack 11343]

4 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

prefer hope's me like.

[toonotl 3415]

20 minutes ago, ewerk said:

Plus he refers to himself in the third person and ewerk thinks that anyone who does that is a massive cunt.

 

He also asks himself questions then answers them. Does toonotl think that's another sign of a massive cunt? He sure does.

[Toonpack 11343]

6 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Much better article. Actually feels like a positive event rather than a negative one. 

 

Clearly still work to do on his and Howe's relationship. 

 

I didn't really get the angst tbh, I read Douglas' article first and it was balanced and all sounded pretty normal to me. The Athletic one Ayatollah posted backs Douglas up.

[Holden McGroin 7561]

8 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

prefer hope's me like.

I’ve just read the quotes and haven’t watched a video version, so it’s probably harder to get the tone. 
 

There has been a lot of upheaval this summer and it’s the first time we’ve not progressed.  Only time will tell if the actual results of the decisions from past couple of months bear fruit.

 

it might be that long term we end up being more successful. 
 

I do have a feeling that it’s not all rosey now and a few bad results and Howe will be in trouble.

 

 

Edited September 5, 2024 by Holden McGroin

[Gemmill 49832]

Just now, Toonpack said:

 

I didn't really get the angst tbh, I read Douglas' article first and it was balanced and all sounded pretty normal to me. The Athletic one Ayatollah posted backs Douglas up.

 

Hope's is largely just the quotes, posted without context. I would have to go through and do a side by side vs the Athletic (which I'm not gonna) but my sense is that Hope's focused on mostly the quotes that indicated tension. 

 

I might be being unfair though, and he would say "I published direct quotes". 

[Gemmill 49832]

I think the event itself is a good thing - the more transparent the club is, the better. Much worse would be to have windows go by and just keep sending Howe out to front everything up and nobody ever hear from the bloke that's in charge of our entire recruitment strategy. 

[thebrokendoll 10241]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

I didn't really get the angst tbh, I read Douglas' article first and it was balanced and all sounded pretty normal to me. The Athletic one Ayatollah posted backs Douglas up.

 

chris waugh was lee ryder's underling.

nowt more needs saying.

[Toonpack 11343]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

Hope's is largely just the quotes, posted without context. I would have to go through and do a side by side vs the Athletic (which I'm not gonna) but my sense is that Hope's focused on mostly the quotes that indicated tension. 

 

I might be being unfair though, and he would say "I published direct quotes". 

 

You're not.

 

Also the quotes are likely to "indicate tension" if you look for it, especially against the background Hope has been cultivating (the cunt).

[Holden McGroin 7561]

August 2024:

 

Big Mitch: “How about Disasi?”

Edwardo: “Guehi please Mitch”

Big Mitch: “I had him at Monaco. big, strong, quick. He’d fit in lovely at the RCB”

Edwardo: “ONNNNLLYYYY GUEEEHHHIIIII”

 

Big Mitch: “Okay, chill Eddie. I’m only supporting anyway. It’s on your head. Remember that. REMEMBER THAT. I might also mention it to some local journos just in case I forget whose fault it was”

 

October 2024 - after a bad run of results.

Big Mitch:

Edited September 5, 2024 by Holden McGroin

[toonotl 3415]

23 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

https://archive.ph/DKs8K
 

Athletic article is ever so slightly more nuanced than Hopey the Shit Stirrer’s

 

This is the article I read. Honestly, I didn't find that much to be up in arms about. There's certainly some tension between Howe and Mitchell. And perhaps Eales too.

 

It could be a toxic power struggle forming. But it could also be the ingredients for a healthy dynamic between them. I guess we'll see. I'm hopeful that it'll work out. 

[Gemmill 49832]

4 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

chris waugh was lee ryder's underling.

nowt more needs saying.

 

 

[Toonpack 11343]

3 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

chris waugh was lee ryder's underling.

nowt more needs saying.

 

and he moved on because he was a better writer, many folks start off under an utterly shit boss.

 

I read an article and take it on it's merits, but Hope(less) negatively spins everything to the point he's basically a caricature of a journo now, same as Edwards. They're click farmers not reporters.

 

 

[thebrokendoll 10241]

1 minute ago, Toonpack said:

 

and he moved on because he was a better writer, many folks start off under an utterly shit boss.

 

I read an article and take it on it's merits, but Hope(less) negatively spins everything to the point he's basically a caricature of a journo now, same as Edwards. They're click farmers not reporters.

 

 

 

I'm merely playing the part of devil's advocate mate. 

[Christmas Tree 5103]

Pissy pant brigade are out in force I see  

 

Think you are all blowing this WAY out of proportion.

 

The days of a Keegan type manager running the show are over if you want to be an elite club. Sure, Eddie Amanda and co have all rolled their sleeves up since the takeover and done  very well to get us where we are, but Mitchell is right that we need an elite world wide network that is getting us the likes of Bruno, before he goes to Lyon.

 

Ive said before this window was a perfect storm with Ashworth gone, Amanda going, PSR and Mitchell coming in late.

 

People who seem to know their football stuff very well, insist that we have two first class operators in Eales and Mitchell. I have no doubt whatsoever that next summers window will be a great success.

 

Hopefully Eddie is or gets onboard with the set up as the long term growth of the club, (particularly trying to catch up financial wise), is much more important than any one head coach.

Edited September 5, 2024 by Christmas Tree

[Gemmill 49832]

Oof when CT is tumble drying your undies, you know you've REALLY gone off on one. 

[Gemmill 49832]

Waiting for point number 2 though. 

[Toonpack 11343]

4 minutes ago, toonotl said:

 

This is the article I read. Honestly, I didn't find that much to be up in arms about. There's certainly some tension between Howe and Mitchell. And perhaps Eales too.

 

It could be a toxic power struggle forming. But it could also be the ingredients for a healthy dynamic between them. I guess we'll see. I'm hopeful that it'll work out. 

 

I just don't see anything other than a normal adjustment in a big organisation when someone at the top changes, professional people remain professional, it takes quite a while for balance to be found between the old persons ways/strategy and the new broom and before everyone settles down around that.

 

In most organisations it just happens/evolves behind closed doors. But this is a football club with crazy levels of media exposure so folks get asked questions and every answer is dissected and inferences taken.

 

As Gemmill (I think) said, if Eddie thinks he can find a big club with him having total autonomy of decision, he's deluded. That presupposes Eddie even thinks that way to start with, which in itself is supposition.

[Toonpack 11343]

8 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

I'm merely playing the cunt. 

FYP 😝

[Holden McGroin 7561]

2 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Oof when CT is tumble drying your undies, you know you've REALLY gone off on one. 

You’re backing CT to get something correct? Ballsy.