Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, The Fish said: Put it this way, if we can get a Gordon/Barnes standard player ont he right flank, we're immeasurably more dangerous going forward. And with worse players than we have now, we had the joint meanest defence in the league 2 seasons ago. I think a coach can have more impact on a defensive unit, bringing them up to a higher standard than they naturally are. More impact than the same coach can have at the top end of the pitch where natural talent makes more of a difference. I'm not explaining myself well, I know. But a €60-70m attacker makes more of a difference to our ambitions, than a €60-70m defender would. fish dropping truth bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10775 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: fish dropping truth bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Would be quite amusing if we took him off Palace. Talk of the Dippers getting him tho. this is exactly the sort of alternative deal for a centre half I was talking about. I confess I know little about him but he just won the Bundesliga, so clearly no mug, and he’s £20-30m cheaper then Guehi, leaving us more cash to get a RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6542 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: this is exactly the sort of alternative deal for a centre half I was talking about. I confess I know little about him but he just won the Bundesliga, so clearly no mug, and he’s £20-30m cheaper then Guehi, leaving us more cash to get a RW You're not allowed to talk about this as its just a rumour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10775 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: this is exactly the sort of alternative deal for a centre half I was talking about. I confess I know little about him but he just won the Bundesliga, so clearly no mug, and he’s £20-30m cheaper then Guehi, leaving us more cash to get a RW You'd assume he'd be on lower wages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44489 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I wonder if there'll come a day when we aren't celebrating the idea of missing out on our number one summer transfer window target. Get in that bargain bin Eddie! Have a good rummage about! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 12 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I wonder if there'll come a day when we aren't celebrating the idea of missing out on our number one summer transfer window target. Get in that bargain bin Eddie! Have a good rummage about! I’m sorry, I missed the memo that said we weren’t allowed to question the wisdom in spunking £70m on a player who was worth half that price before the euros. it looks like the recruitment team agree he isn’t worth what palace value him at. I don’t think that’s a bad thing - we’re not Man U and I don’t think we want to develop a reputation for spending over the odds as long as these psr rules are in place. If we could freely spend the money the owners have without fear of a point deduction I wouldn’t be getting involved in this debate, I’d say spend the cash to get the players we want 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10775 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 15 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I wonder if there'll come a day when we aren't celebrating the idea of missing out on our number one summer transfer window target. Get in that bargain bin Eddie! Have a good rummage about! Had Guehi moved for £70m to Liverpool or Man City, that's one thing. But nobody else seems interested at that price, so why should we pay it? Especially as it's not like the kid is the new Maldini or owt. He's top half of the PL standard, but he's not better than Botman who is much more highly rated and who we got for 1/2 the price. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, The Fish said: Had Guehi moved for £70m to Liverpool or Man City, that's one thing. But nobody else seems interested at that price, so why should we pay it? Especially as it's not like the kid is the new Maldini or owt. He's top half of the PL standard, but he's not better than Botman who is much more highly rated and who we got for 1/2 the price. He obviously isn’t a £70m player. Even taking today’s inflated prices and the English tax into consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9490 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, The Fish said: Had Guehi moved for £70m to Liverpool or Man City, that's one thing. But nobody else seems interested at that price, so why should we pay it? Especially as it's not like the kid is the new Maldini or owt. He's top half of the PL standard, but he's not better than Botman who is much more highly rated and who we got for 1/2 the price. He does have two working legs though. Just saying.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I think the fact we’ve had four bids ruled out tells us it’s time to walk away. We’re being taken for mugs with this deal - something that hasn’t happened since the takeover so far. I don’t feel like we laid over the odds for anyone so far, except maybe Chris Wood but we were desperate for a forward then and it was a case of needs-must and tbf to wood he did a job to help keep us up, while looking like a bit of a donkey at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44489 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Lads, I was hoping for Rice Krispies. I hope we can all enjoy your Rice Crackles. And the Choco Pops* we've been able to buy with the change. * not racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6542 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I wouldn't be buying Rice Krispies for £15 a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44489 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 You're advocating paying £7.50 a box for fucking Rice Crackles. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6542 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I preferred the Crunchy Nut Tosin Flakes for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44489 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 We'll get Guehi on the last day of the window. And you lads will just have to cry more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10775 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Dr Gloom said: He obviously isn’t a £70m player. Even taking today’s inflated prices and the English tax into consideration He'd have to be Van Dijk at Southampton quality for us to be talking about £70m being anything but an overspend. I was fine, even positive, on the move at the rumoured £60m fee. But I'll freely admit that was as much out of desperation for a signing, as it was an evaluation of his quality. Calafiori, Yoro, De Ligt, Adarabioyo, Max Kilman all moved for less than Guehi's reported valuation, this window. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6542 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 You'll be the first one whingeing when Almiron cuts in on his left foot and balloons it over the bar rather than rolling it across the 6 yard box with this right peg for a tap in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44489 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Holden McGroin said: You'll be the first one whingeing when Almiron cuts in on his left foot and balloons it over the bar rather than rolling it across the 6 yard box with this right peg for a tap in. I won't cos I'm not daft enough to think it's either Guehi or a RW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6542 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I blame KD for this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, The Fish said: He'd have to be Van Dijk at Southampton quality for us to be talking about £70m being anything but an overspend. I was fine, even positive, on the move at the rumoured £60m fee. But I'll freely admit that was as much out of desperation for a signing, as it was an evaluation of his quality. Calafiori, Yoro, De Ligt, Adarabioyo, Max Kilman all moved for less than Guehi's reported valuation, this window. Hummels is out of contact. He’d be worth a punt on a short term deal. He still looked the part against us last season and for Germany in the euros - or perhaps @Isegrim can tell me if that’s a bad shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21846 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 6 minutes ago, Gemmill said: We'll get Guehi on the last day of the window. And you lads will just have to cry more. I won’t cry if we also secure a RW that can go straight into the first team too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10775 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: Hummels is out of contact. He’d be worth a punt on a short term deal. He still looked the part against us last season and for Germany in the euros - or perhaps @Isegrim can tell me if that’s a bad shout Alreet Captain Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9490 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: You'll be the first one whingeing when Almiron cuts in on his left foot and balloons it over the bar rather than rolling it across the 6 yard box with this right peg for a tap in. I can't wait for the Minteh dribblers to start tbh. He got an assist and a brain injury at the weekend and you'd think he'd buried the hat trick that relegated us and his cock in the collective mas of everyone crying about his assist on socials. Edited August 21 by Dazzler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4709 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 6 minutes ago, Dazzler said: I can't wait for the Minteh dribblers to start tbh. He got an assist and a brain injury at the weekend and you'd think he'd buried the hat trick that relegated us and his cock in the collective mas of everyone crying about his assist on socials at the weekend. I mean the lads meant to be a fantastic prospect. Nothing but a colossus fuck up by someone, that we’ve ended up having to sell him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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