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Transfers, 2024-25 season


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54 minutes ago, OTF said:

 

Touted by whom? Know noughts? We just had a mad scramble to ensure we complied with PSR, why would anyone expect that we'd then turn around and spend huge amounts of money? It makes no sense. It will always have to be a relatively gradual improvement. We've exceeded results and still people are getting upset. Baffling.

 

Well yes the usual know noughts but I also think last summer there was a general feeling even on here that we'd be able to go bigger once the CL money and new sponsorships come in. People have talked about stadium rights and all that. Of course that was all just expectation noone knows how the commercial stuff is structured and lined-up. I think the club will get it right just maybe not at the pace we expected, especially with no Europe this season.

 

Plus we haven't been able to move on Dubravka, Miggy, Wilson etc together who could have financed a major signing.

 

 

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Ultimately, I think it's premature to judge the window before the window shuts. If the top brass at the club treated transfer negotiations like we sometimes want them to on here the club would have their own pants down over every transfer because they wouldn't be able to go 5 minutes of waiting for a reply to an offer without getting back on the phone to increase the offer in the hopes of getting a faster response. :lol:

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17 minutes ago, aimaad22 said:

 

Well yes the usual know noughts but I also think last summer there was a general feeling even on here that we'd be able to go bigger once the CL money and new sponsorships come in. People have talked about stadium rights and all that. Of course that was all just expectation noone knows how the commercial stuff is structured and lined-up. I think the club will get it right just maybe not at the pace we expected, especially with no Europe this season.

 

Plus we haven't been able to move on Dubravka, Miggy, Wilson etc together who could have financed a major signing.

 

 

 

This was the only other avenue we had for immediate impact on our ability to spend. No Europe this season will hurt our bottom line but will help us immensely the league and with injuries so that when we are next back in Europe we will be in a stronger position to compete (and let's be real, a single dodgy decision stopped us from progressing beyond the group stage). The signings we have already made have been under the caveats that the improved sponsorships are on their way in. They've been quite careful to maintain compliance so far* and will continue to do so as they know there is an extra level of scrutiny afforded to us.

 

I've said it before on here but in a way I kind of like that we have to fight for each little bit of progression, we can't just go out and spend on the level of the clubs that we desire to be competitive with. It will be tougher and take more time but it will be more rewarding as a result.

 

The best time I have had supporting us over the last 30 years was Howe coming in and rescuing us from what seemed like certain relegation and the subsequent season where we shocked everyone and finished fourth.

 

* - the PSR scramble end of June shows that maybe not careful enough.

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so here we are a few days from kick off to the new season and a couple of weeks till the transfer window SLAMS shut.

how do you rate our deals so far?

marks out of 10 and a thoughtful and reasoned explanation as to why please.

I'll start....

 

2/10  

 

been fucking shite.

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I don't think it's an overreaction to say that, with 2 days until the season starts, this has been a disappointing window, in terms of both incomings and outgoings.
 

Hall potentially the only player we've signed who would get into our strongest XI, and that deal was agreed 12 months ago. 

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3 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I don't think it's an overreaction to say that, with 2 days until the season starts, this has been a disappointing window, in terms of both incomings and outgoings.
 

Hall potentially the only player we've signed who would get into our strongest XI, and that deal was agreed 12 months ago. 

 

No panic buying, we already have a strong squad and I have every confidence that there will be one or two strong signings before the window closes, potentially more if sales are made.

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4 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

I don't think it's an overreaction to say that, with 2 days until the season starts, this has been a disappointing window, in terms of both incomings and outgoings.
 

Hall potentially the only player we've signed who would get into our strongest XI, and that deal was agreed 12 months ago. 

I agree.

But it is also true that we have signed bench players and future players with Kelly and Osula.

What positions should we sign to improve the starting XI? Clearly the right winger and the left back.

Maybe a defender if we take into account that Botman is injured and Schar needs to rest from time to time.

The reality is that it seems that we are trying to sign a starting center back (Guehi) and that Hall could be that starting left back to replace Burn.

What we really need is for all the players to be healthy. But I see a very solid starting XI.

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32 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

A saudi team is the only hope for a Miggy exit.

I have not read the original information, but I have read that there has been a statement from PIF to the 4 teams it controls (the 4 that have money: Al Nassr, Al Ahly, Al Hilal and Al-Ittihad) that this year they could not have money to make signings.

In fact, if you look closely, the reality is that so far this year there are almost no signings from Saudi Arabia. (Only Diaby)

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6 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

I can’t believe that given our owner, we are not shipping more players over there. 

There's a line of thinking that says that's why we're not sending players over there.

 

Could also be that our players don't want to go there.

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Factoring in the losses of Minteh and Anderson this is a piss poor window so far. 

 

Are we paying the price of some serious spunkage in previous windows and the end of the 3 year period?

 

Which, incidentally, is apparently how long my lass's last these days.

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14 minutes ago, Diego21 said:

I agree.

But it is also true that we have signed bench players and future players with Kelly and Osula.

What positions should we sign to improve the starting XI? Clearly the right winger and the left back.

Maybe a defender if we take into account that Botman is injured and Schar needs to rest from time to time.

The reality is that it seems that we are trying to sign a starting center back (Guehi) and that Hall could be that starting left back to replace Burn.

What we really need is for all the players to be healthy. But I see a very solid starting XI.

 

How well Hall will work will really depend on the style that we play and if we get adequate shielding for our defense from midfield. Joelinton makes a huge difference there, hopefully Tonali too. We do also still have Targett who looked good before his injury problems and is scheduled to be back in a few weeks.

 

I agree we have a solid starting team and good options in a few positions. I'm excited for this season just with our current squad.

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7 minutes ago, Diego21 said:

I agree.

But it is also true that we have signed bench players and future players with Kelly and Osula.

What positions should we sign to improve the starting XI? Clearly the right winger and the left back.

Maybe a defender if we take into account that Botman is injured and Schar needs to rest from time to time.

The reality is that it seems that we are trying to sign a starting center back (Guehi) and that Hall could be that starting left back to replace Burn.

What we really need is for all the players to be healthy. But I see a very solid starting XI.


Everyone was in agreement that RCB, RW and CF positions needed strengthening before the Summer. Osula fits the bill for the backup CF, but Schar Isn't getting any younger and we could do with a longer term replacement for him.

 

As for the RW, it's the only position we haven't strengthened since the takeover. Almiron simply isn't good enough, despite working hard and seeming like a good lad. Our attacks consistently break down when the balls gets to him. It's no coincidence that we've been in talks with MLS and Saudi clubs, and I suspect Howe sees the RW as one of the key areas for strengthening. 

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6 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

Realistically I only think we can upgrade RW this season. A RCB would be handy but as long as Schar stays fit then that’s not an issue.

Despite looking like he'll need a stretcher at some point in most games he's been very robust for us.

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