Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Ayatollah Hermione 14650]

I wouldn’t be against Chalobah as a cheaper option for now and then source Schar’s long term replacement a bit further down the line tbh

[Toonpack 11325]

9 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

even if he was at the level of Virgil Van Dyke (he isn’t) I’d be questioning why we are spending that amount of money on a centre back when we have Schar, Burn, Kelly, Krafth, Murphy, plus Botman and Lascelles to come back. While at RW we have Murphy and Miggy

CB is a priority because Schar is getting old as is Burn, Botman is fucked and out for ages (and may not be the same player when back) and Krafth/Lascelles are “last resort” CB’s and the other two are kids.

 

We’re buying for now/the near future.

 

RW is next priority I reckon and aye it’s Miggy/Murphy but also Gordon or Barnes if necessary.

 

CB is way above RW in current needs.

 

 I think VVD is way over-rated these days and probably always was, he’s lucky he’s not played his career with strikers the level of a Henry or Shearer knocking about.

[wykikitoon 22727]

Agreed. I think people seem blinded by the RW option. 

 

VVD wasn't smashing down doors when he first went to Liverpool and took a year or so to settle. 

[Dr Gloom 23558]

2 hours ago, Toonpack said:

CB is a priority because Schar is getting old as is Burn, Botman is fucked and out for ages (and may not be the same player when back) and Krafth/Lascelles are “last resort” CB’s and the other two are kids.

 

We’re buying for now/the near future.

 

RW is next priority I reckon and aye it’s Miggy/Murphy but also Gordon or Barnes if necessary.

 

CB is way above RW in current needs.

 

 I think VVD is way over-rated these days and probably always was, he’s lucky he’s not played his career with strikers the level of a Henry or Shearer knocking about.

Disagree like. We have loads of depth at centre back, and are way stronger there than at RW, even taking the injuries into account.
 

I get why we’re trying to strengthen CB given Burn and Schar’s age. But honestly, I think Schar has at least another season or two in him - he’s been one of our most consistent players since the takeover.  

 

And I question why we would chuck almost our entire summer budget on that area when we’re looking at Miggy or Murphy out wide on the right for another season. It’s obviously the weakest area of the squad and the one that hasn’t been upgraded since the Ashley era. 

Edited August 17, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[wykikitoon 22727]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Disagree like. We have loads of depth at centre back, and are way stronger there than at RW, even taking the injuries into account.
 

I get why we’re trying to strengthen CB given Burn and Schar’s age. But honestly, I think Schar has at least another season or two in him - he’s been one of our most consistent players since the takeover.  

 

And I question why we would chuck almost our entire summer budget on that area when we’re looking at Miggy or Murphy out wide on the right for another season. It’s obviously the weakest area of the squad and the one that hasn’t been upgraded since the Ashley era. 

 

So hence why we should be strengthening now?  Rather than waiting?

[Toonpack 11325]

23 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

So hence why we should be strengthening now?  Rather than waiting?

Yep, better to replace a player a year too early than a year too late.

[Andrew 5136]

13 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

Should go for Tomori and that PSV winger Bakayoko instead

 

Tomori is one im genuinely surprised we havent been linked with all that much. 

[Dr Gloom 23558]

1 hour ago, Toonpack said:

Yep, better to replace a player a year too early than a year too late.

but we have good enough CBs for this season, even despite the injuries. I don’t think we can get top 4 again relying on Miggy and Murphy at RW. I love both of them. Can’t question their attitude or work rate but they’re not elite wingers. Miggy’s purple patch helped us to champions league last time but it was a purple patch and he reverted to type last season. I’m much more confident about our options at centre back. 

[Howmanheyman 36442]

1 hour ago, Andrew said:

 

Tomori is one im genuinely surprised we havent been linked with all that much. 

 

Were we linked with Tonali? 

[RobinRobin 12440]

3 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

Were we linked with Tonali? 

But we weren't putting in increasing bids for another midfielder. 

[Toonpack 11325]

41 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

but we have good enough CBs for this season, even despite the injuries. I don’t think we can get top 4 again relying on Miggy and Murphy at RW. I love both of them. Can’t question their attitude or work rate but they’re not elite wingers. Miggy’s purple patch helped us to champions league last time but it was a purple patch and he reverted to type last season. I’m much more confident about our options at centre back. 

We create a bucketload of chances irrespective of their attacking weaknesses, at the back we’re not so resolute, Pope gets hurt again and we’re screwed. Improve what’s in front of him and you are also mitigating that.

 

CB always was my opinion/#1 need, then developmental striker (we’ve done that) then RW and maybe a #6 although Hall may end up being the latter if extra protection needed.

 

It’s as much “out of possession” contribution as the attacking stuff and Miggy in particular brings a shitload of that. Howe in his PC actually  referred to/mentioned that.
 

Yeah I’d love an elite winger but it ain’t critical to where we are just now IMO, it’s an icing on the cake sort of thing.

 

Who are the elite in their early 20’s workaholic wingers? I have no idea tbh but Guehi is elite and likely will get better in a position of pretty imminent need.

[Dr Gloom 23558]

8 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

We create a bucketload of chances irrespective of their attacking weaknesses, at the back we’re not so resolute, Pope gets hurt again and we’re screwed. Improve what’s in front of him and you are also mitigating that.

 

CB always was my opinion/#1 need, then developmental striker (we’ve done that) then RW and maybe a #6 although Hall may end up being the latter if extra protection needed.

 

It’s as much “out of possession” contribution as the attacking stuff and Miggy in particular brings a shitload of that. Howe in his PC actually  referred to/mentioned that.
 

Yeah I’d love an elite winger but it ain’t critical to where we are just now IMO, it’s an icing on the cake sort of thing.

 

Who are the elite in their early 20’s workaholic wingers? I have no idea tbh but Guehi is elite and likely will get better in a position of pretty imminent need.

Mbuemo, Raphina? I dunno. Reckon you could get a player of that quality for the same money we’re potentially going to have to put up if we’re determined to get Guehi.

 

In an ideal world we would get Guehi and the sort of RW we need, but it’s hard to see it happening if we end up paying £70m on him. But then, I don’t really have a clue about PSR ceilings. It does feel like Palace are taking the piss with this fee though and I think we should walk away as there is better value to be found elsewhere.
 

I don’t understand why we didn’t go for the German lad we were linked with, or Tomori - he looks a better defender then Guehi to me, better on the ball too and also a good age profile, I can’t work out why Southgate didn’t fancy him in the euros at all, and he is probably available for half of what we’re potentially going to have to pay on Guehi. 

Edited August 17, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[Toonpack 11325]

I read something on Tomori by some random who watches a lot of Eyetie football and he reckoned Tomori flatters to deceive and isn’t particularly consistent. Seems Southgate agreed.

[Gemmill 49712]

It's. 

 

 

Fucking. 

 

 

 

 

MBEUMO. 

 

 

 

M-B-E-U-M-O

 

 

 

You. 

 

 

Thick. 

 

 

Cunts. 

 

 

Also for the last fucking time. He's 5 foot 7. Eddie Howe is not going to sign him. Get his name out of your fucking mouths. 

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 7606]

Speaks volumes that Trippier and Almiron don't get any minutes today. I suspect those 2 and Dubravka are the 3 players (other than Hayden/Fraser) that we try to move on next week 

[Dazzler 11683]

Could do with guehi like for a game or 3 now.

[Gemmill 49712]

We don't need centre halfs man, we're absolutely stacked in that area. 

[Chaser 1365]

13 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

We don't need centre halfs man, we're absolutely stacked in that area. 

Stacked with bodies, not top quality talent.

[OTF 8396]

36 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

Could do with guehi like for a game or 3 now.

 

Kelly will get a chance ahead of schedule.

[Toonpack 11325]

29 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

We don't need centre halfs man, we're absolutely stacked in that area. 

No, no we’re not, we have two good ones (and a half if you include the broken clog wearer) we need another especially seeing one of our good ones fucked up today and is gone for 3 games.

[Gemmill 49712]

How would you say you lads do with sarcasm? 

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Speaks volumes that Trippier and Almiron don't get any minutes today. I suspect those 2 and Dubravka are the 3 players (other than Hayden/Fraser) that we try to move on next week 

I think it has to be with Trippier. Hall was on the yellow for so long and Trippier on at LB or switching Tino made so much sense.

[GrahamTaylor5 1172]

46 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

We don't need centre halfs man, we're absolutely stacked in that area. 

HELMET!

[Dazzler 11683]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

How would you say you lads do with sarcasm? 

[Toonpack 11325]

1 hour ago, Gemmill said:

How would you say you lads do with sarcasm? 

After a bottle of 19 crimes and a dark rum, nope, no siree, not well