Andrew 5136 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: wonder why they didn’t fork it out 🤔 Aye, their decision making has proven to be excellent in the time since 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1365 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 I disagree Guehi was a £30m player before the Euros. He's been considered to be a talent for at least 2 seasons, he's got pace and he's a solid tackler. He showed in the Euros that he can play under huge pressure and to be fair to him, he was probably the most consistent player in the side throughout. I agree with the opinion of others on here that we should get less concerned about money. It's a problem which football has created where fans debate on the value of players more than their worth on the team. I think taking the fee out of it, Guehi definitely improves our back line and if that's the difference between one or two league places then that's how we should be looking at it. Small margins when you're pushing for those higher spots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11325 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Dr Gloom said: And tbh, if we do sign him, i don’t think he starts when everyone is fit - Schar and Botman are better players, surely? Schar is getting on and there’s no guarantee Botman will come back the same as he was. Guehi can play either CB spot (doesn’t he play left CB for Palace?) he’s young and would ultimately be Schar’s successor while also being a bit of Botman insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4635 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 One of the main things I hate about sky is fucking transfer windows. Its created an industry for reporters standing outside clubs for a month and mongs on Twitter pretending to know anything. It’s so fucking tedious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11313 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 3 minutes ago, strawb said: One of the main things I hate about sky is fucking transfer windows. Its created an industry for reporters standing outside clubs for a month and mongs on Twitter pretending to know anything. It’s so fucking tedious. So clearly them wanting to get in on the whole US Draft nonsense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 24 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Guehi is a solid but unspectacular centre back. £50m seems loads for him let alone the mooted £65m. We could probably go and get Tomori from Milan for less than £40m, or the German international we were linked with earlier in the window. I’d rather we did that then spunk £50-60m on the quality right winger were crying out for. If we end up blowing the rest of our summer budget on Guehi, I think it’s been an average transfer window rather than a good one because we still have two Steve Bruce era players as our main options at RW. Well there's clearly something about Guehi that Howe et al value over the players you mentioned. Players that both failed to make their countries Euros squads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7606 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 33 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: wonder why they didn’t fork it out 🤔 Cos they have 50p heed on stupid wages and worry about making the same mistake twice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22727 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 50 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Guehi is a solid but unspectacular centre back. £50m seems loads for him let alone the mooted £65m. We could probably go and get Tomori from Milan for less than £40m, or the German international we were linked with earlier in the window. I’d rather we did that then spunk £50-60m on the quality right winger were crying out for. If we end up blowing the rest of our summer budget on Guehi, I think it’s been an average transfer window rather than a good one because we still have two Steve Bruce era players as our main options at RW. What RW would you spunk £60m who has Prem experience and a proven goal scorer / goal provider? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 Howe has supposedly set his stall out in his pre-Southampton press conference. He's said we won't pay silly money for players, clearly referencing Parish's attempts at rinsing us in public with all his quotes in the media. It's uncharacteristic from Eddie, but he no doubt believes that it's only fair he say his piece after Parish did. This really does seem like our last take it or leave it offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22727 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1365 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 52 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: What RW would you spunk £60m who has Prem experience and a proven goal scorer / goal provider? Mbuemo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCR 24 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 hours ago, The Fish said: ? We did? We spent our budget on a player who wasn't allowed to play. I think he will be a good player for a long time for us ,but it had a negative effect on our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49712 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 7 minutes ago, Chaser said: Mbuemo? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11313 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 46 minutes ago, DCR said: We spent our budget on a player who wasn't allowed to play. I think he will be a good player for a long time for us ,but it had a negative effect on our season. But isn't that no different to a player getting an unexpected leg break or something? Don't think it was a PSR mistake. Now, had Tonali been available all season but had been shit, then that is a PSR mistake in my book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1365 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 3 hours ago, Chaser said: Mbuemo? Actually reading that back, I didn't note the £60m figure. He's a proven prem league winger capable of scoring goals but wouldn't be worth that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7536 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 7 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: Am I alone here in thinking this bloke is worth nowhere near what we paid for Isak? Solid centre half, English, so an inflated transfer fee is baked in, used to the premier league etc - but if it wasn’t for six good games in a poor England team during the euros he’d be going for £20-30m. It’s exactly the sort of deal we have avoided and the type Man U usually fall for - paying well over the odds on a player who will never be worth that much again throughout his career. Perhaps I’m missing something that other people have seen that can suggest I’m wrong here but he doesn’t look like an obvious successor to Schar. Certainly not a like-for-like ball-playing centre back. And tbh, if we do sign him, i don’t think he starts when everyone is fit - Schar and Botman are better players, surely? Aye. I’ve said It since we were interested him. He was the worst CB I’ve seen play against us last season. It may have just been an off day but he also made a couple of massive clangers in the Euros. He managed to get away with them but I don’t think he’d be so lucky against teams that aren’t shite. He is only 23/24 though so has loads of improvement in him. I’d rather focus on RW. It’s money not necessarily needed to be spent if Fab stays fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2317 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 Palace have supposedly rejected our fourth bid. Fuck them. I'd have gladly taken Guehi, but he's not worth the ball ache that is Parish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7536 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 1 hour ago, Polarboy said: Palace have supposedly rejected our fourth bid. Fuck them. I'd have gladly taken Guehi, but he's not worth the ball ache that is Parish. This is how Maguires price rose so much. Walk away. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36667 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: Aye. I’ve said It since we were interested him. He was the worst CB I’ve seen play against us last season. It may have just been an off day but he also made a couple of massive clangers in the Euros. He managed to get away with them but I don’t think he’d be so lucky against teams that aren’t shite. He is only 23/24 though so has loads of improvement in him. I’d rather focus on RW. It’s money not necessarily needed to be spent if Fab stays fit. Would he be anywhere near that valuation without the England caps? Would he have anywhere near that many caps without the Southgate/Crystal Palace connection? I think the answer to both of those questions is no 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7536 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, Alex said: Would he be anywhere near that valuation without the England caps? Would he have anywhere near that many caps without the Southgate/Crystal Palace connection? I think the answer to both of those questions is no It’s telling that this is playing out in the public (very unusual for us btw) and no-one else is interested in him. Certainly at that price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22727 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 can we ban KD from starting threads for players until jimbo's TV is shown? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23558 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: This is how Maguires price rose so much. Walk away. 100% time to walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23558 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Holden McGroin said: Aye. I’ve said It since we were interested him. He was the worst CB I’ve seen play against us last season. It may have just been an off day but he also made a couple of massive clangers in the Euros. He managed to get away with them but I don’t think he’d be so lucky against teams that aren’t shite. He is only 23/24 though so has loads of improvement in him. I’d rather focus on RW. It’s money not necessarily needed to be spent if Fab stays fit. even if he was at the level of Virgil Van Dyke (he isn’t) I’d be questioning why we are spending that amount of money on a centre back when we have Schar, Burn, Kelly, Krafth, Murphy, plus Botman and Lascelles to come back. While at RW we have Murphy and Miggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7606 Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 3 hours ago, wykikitoon said: can we ban KD from starting threads for players until jimbo's TV is shown? Tbf, if people read the opening post they would see I simply posed a question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12440 Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 5 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: Tbf, if people read the opening post they would see I simply posed a question! Too fucking late. 🙂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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