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3 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Javier Manquillo made this fucker look average in the same game at Leeds where Trippier made him look conference level. Never been convinced by him tbh. He’s obviously better than am making out but would he indisputably be an upgrade on Miggy?… 

 

https://www.football365.com/news/newcastle-barcelona-acccept-offer-raphinha-fifth-summer-signing

 

Yes IMO.

 

23 contributions in 37 last season

22 in 50 season before

14 in 36 in his last season for Leeds, he got 19 the year before.

 

He's proven he's consistently better than Miggy if you ask me.

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47 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

Yes IMO.

 

23 contributions in 37 last season

22 in 50 season before

14 in 36 in his last season for Leeds, he got 19 the year before.

 

He's proven he's consistently better than Miggy if you ask me.

 

Also says in the article that he isnt keen on joining the second biggest team in the North East and is a MLF

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13 minutes ago, RobElliott said:

 

Also says in the article that he isnt keen on joining the second biggest team in the North East and is a MLF

I don't think boro can afford him!

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2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Missed this yesterday. With Minteh, Anderson and Almiron gone we are going to be light on wingers. 
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Got to assume we're getting a right winger in to replace almiron in which case we've got

Gordon/Barnes for the left and New Guy/Murphy on the right.

 

Plus potential cover by Joelinton or Isakif things get particularly bad.

That's probably fine for a season with no europe.

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I don't know if it's just my latent hatred for Liverpool, but the media coverage of Liverpool's interest in Gordon seems very odd. No surprises there, of course, but it's interesting since we haven't really dealt with them recently in the transfer market. It's so lopsided that despite us never actually receiving even so much as an actual offer from them, there are multiple news reports of them "rejecting" our offer of Gordon to them. But from what I can tell the whole thing went: 1. They ask about Gordon's availability because they're vultures sensing we need to sell; 2. We ask about the availability of Quansah because we're technically willing to entertain the idea of selling any of our players for the right price; 3. They say Quansah isn't available. 4. We say, ok, neither is Gordon unless you've got 100m or thereabouts. 5. They say no thanks. 6. End of story.

 

I doubt very much also that Gordon's head has been turned. The source would be some scouse muppet in the England squad like TAA or whoever thinking everyone wants to play for them and telling some tinpot journalist that Gordon is heartbroken at Newcastle "REJECTING", sorry, Liverpool "REJECTING" Newcastle's offer to sell Gordon.

 

I'm quite confused as to how you can enquire about the availability of an asset. Get a response. And then REJECT their response as though it's some sort of concrete offer is beyond me.

"THAT'S A NICE CAR!"

"Thanks."

"I DON'T WANT IT! NO THANKS! I'M HAPPY WITH MY CAR!"

"..."

 

Anyway, in reality where the rest of the world lives, the scouse appear to have asked about Gordon's availability. We undoubtedly gave the prudent response that he's available for the right price (like all of our players are available in this stupid world of PSR that everyone except the cartel has to deal with now). And they had no intention of meeting our valuation because they had hoped they could just pick the bones off our rotting corpse like the dirty scavengers that they are. No such luck.

 

Reading between the lines Liverpool's media offensive really has the vibes of a "you can't dump me you're dumped" kind of teenage boy with a paper thin ego type thing about it from Liverpool. Similar to ManU's response to the Ashworth situation really. The media just seems like it's an extension of a ManU or Liverpool social media platform at times with them desperately trying to convince themselves amongst themselves that their clubs are still the focal point of everything in the footballing world.

 

Then the rest of us are all left to watch in bemusement while Liverpool/ManU try to tell us they have a new girlfriend, we wouldn't know her though, she goes to another school.

 

Pathetic losers.

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talking about all the above on the phone to me brother yesterday. I've let it all wind me up a bit as well, also on account of having a pathological hatred of red dippers. (and the blue ones)

anyway, he's a lot more philosophical about it than me on this occasion, reckons although gordon will inevitably have been at the very least intrigued by liverpool's interest that deep down footballers are all aware that they're basically just commodities, even more so in the modern world of social media rumour.

gordon will have moved on almost immediately from being unsettled and his focus will be concentrated on hating southgate!

 

I hope he's right.  :)

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this is quite the take. 

 

as far as i see the gordon story (stop me if i've got the timeline wrong): 

 

it was reported (can't remember who broke it) that liverpool approached us for gordon knowing we were scrambling to beat the psr deadline

 

we said, okay, we'll entertain an offer, how much for quansah in exchange? they said he's not for sale, we'll give you £60m for gordon (conveniently the exact amount needed to clear our psr deficit). we said, thanks but no thanks. 

 

then it was reported on the bbc that we "offered" gordon to liverpool, no quotes from anyone to support this. and that liverpool walked away. 

 

now gordon's "head has been turned" - no mention of who he told this to. and according to the scouse bloggers, we're paving the way for his exit this window by taking control of the narrative. 

 

i hope he stays but everyone has a price - he's a £100m winger now 

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So their argument is built on the premise that Edwards is the "mouthpiece" of NUFC. :lol: 

 

Edwards knows absolutely nothing. Someone on twitter nailed it in response to these tweets: "Luke, the club don't even tell you when they're having a press conference". Spot on. :lol: He knows absolutely nothing. He's talking pure shit. He hasn't had an in with the club since Ashley left and he's living off the fumes of reposting other people's stories and peddling clear non-truths that the club want in the public eye for their own ends without using someone else and burning bridges with a legitimate journalist.

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Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the club are feeding Edwards his lines though given the Barella stuff before we signed Sandro etc? I don't follow Edwards, but I do find it concerning if he's trying to paint this narrative. Then again he may just be trying to fill his column page having run out of crayons. 

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27 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

 

this is quite the take. 

 

as far as i see the gordon story (stop me if i've got the timeline wrong): 

 

it was reported (can't remember who broke it) that liverpool approached us for gordon knowing we were scrambling to beat the psr deadline

 

we said, okay, we'll entertain an offer, how much for quansah in exchange? they said he's not for sale, we'll give you £60m for gordon (conveniently the exact amount needed to clear our psr deficit). we said, thanks but no thanks. 

 

then it was reported on the bbc that we "offered" gordon to liverpool, no quotes from anyone to support this. and that liverpool walked away. 

 

now gordon's "head has been turned" - no mention of who he told this to. and according to the scouse bloggers, we're paving the way for his exit this window by taking control of the narrative. 

 

i hope he stays but everyone has a price - he's a £100m winger now 

 

 

I think the story was that they had previously approached us, and we re-initiated the conversation as a backup plan. 

 

Also £60m is nowhere near enough to have cleared our PSR debts, given Gordon must have a book value of >£30-35m (can't remember exactly how much we paid for him). 

 

The "head has been turned" thing came from reports that there were concerns within the club that his head would be turned by interest from the club.  Nothing has come from the player. 

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Also Chris Waugh reported on the concerns from within the club that Gordon has had his head turned.  I've no reason to think he's making them up, so it's probably true, but they are reports of concerns. It basically means nowt until there's something concrete from the player. 

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The question is why would we supposedly still want to sell him now that the PSR shortfall has been covered. You could say so that we could reinvest in the squad, but we'd need to replace Gordon, or at least get Barnes a decent understudy. And if I'm getting this PSR shite right we don't have to worry about it for another three years, in which time we should be able to spend roughly what we've spent the previous three, but without the shortfall due to new sponsorship deals, non essential player sales etc. Although I suppose 80 to 100 million would allow us to really reshape the squad.

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1 minute ago, Polarboy said:

The question is why would we supposedly still want to sell him now that the PSR shortfall has been covered

 

The only reason would be if Gordon's head has been turned and he kicks up a fuss to leave.

 

Big if

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