Transfers, 2024-25 season

[Kid Dynamite 7594]

54 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

They can't argue the toss. Those are arms length transactions with clubs that we have no affiliation with. They are, by definition, market value - in fact for Minteh we accepted less than Lyon offered us because the player didn't want to go there. 

 

And I completely disagree that it was mismanagement. They wanted to sell Anderson in January but he was injured. They tried to sell Miggy in January but he refused to go. Think something similar happened with Wilson. 

 

In the end, they sold two peripheral players and got £8m for a bloke who we were paying to sit around the house. He's now off the payroll now too. 

 

It all happened at the last minute because it was in the buying clubs' interests to make us wait til the last minute. Same reason a load of transfer window business happens on the last day, cos it's the point of maximum leverage. 

 

I honestly don't see the problem with it. We had a messy situation and we got out of it without any of our big stars going. Shame about Anderson but I suspect he was never going to be good enough for where we want to go. 

 

I don't know why there's so much fuss being kicked up about it. Fans on twitter saying "we need answers from the club". Answers to what? We had a PSR hole and we sorted it. There's your fucking answer. 

[Isegrim 10321]

21 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Can you explain what you would have done differently, bearing in mind they had tried to make the sales in earlier windows? 

Difficult to say. Maybe they really couldn’t have done anything more or different. But looking at the outcome I do find it difficult to believe that a different kind of planning could have prevented the last minute panic.

 

Looking at it from an outside perspective I am always perplexed about the approach from English clubs in the transfer market and leaving things to the last minutes. You do hardly see this absurd last minute frantic anywhere else. Transfer deadline isn’t as big a thing in most countries. At least in Germany most clubs do their business before the season starts.

[wykikitoon 22681]

[wykikitoon 22681]

Kevin Lawson has wrote a decent piece on this tbh

[The Mighty Hog 571]

https://www.editkev.football/p/opinion-trust-the-process

 

Since Wiki is so tight he wouldn't even give us a link!

[trophyshy 7304]

17 minutes ago, Isegrim said:

Difficult to say. Maybe they really couldn’t have done anything more or different. But looking at the outcome I do find it difficult to believe that a different kind of planning could have prevented the last minute panic.

 

Looking at it from an outside perspective I am always perplexed about the approach from English clubs in the transfer market and leaving things to the last minutes. You do hardly see this absurd last minute frantic anywhere else. Transfer deadline isn’t as big a thing in most countries. At least in Germany most clubs do their business before the season starts.

 

Germans good at planning shocker. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 14620]

John Ruddy is one of those signings that does make sense in terms of filling the more leadership roles left by Dummett and Ritchie but it’s still mad to see him holding the shirt in 2024  

[Polarboy 2317]

1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

Several people on Twitter (I know) say we never touted Gordon.

 

I read somewhere that Liverpool had previously enquired about Gordon, and seeing our PSR situation tried again last week. With the club being in the situation they were in they felt they at least had to listen to what was being offered, even if they weren't in favour of letting someone like Gordon go. So basically they weren't actively trying to flog Gordon, they just listened to a proposal, put a massive pricetag on him, and also enquired about Quansah. 

Edited July 1, 2024 by Polarboy

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4244]

I hate transfer windows, just months of whining bitches crying about made up bollocks.

[Chaser 1365]

Given the upset on twitter over the sale of Anderson, can you imagine how bad it would have been had we had Twitter in January 1995? 

[Dr Gloom 23528]

1 hour ago, Isegrim said:

Difficult to say. Maybe they really couldn’t have done anything more or different. But looking at the outcome I do find it difficult to believe that a different kind of planning could have prevented the last minute panic.

 

Looking at it from an outside perspective I am always perplexed about the approach from English clubs in the transfer market and leaving things to the last minutes. You do hardly see this absurd last minute frantic anywhere else. Transfer deadline isn’t as big a thing in most countries. At least in Germany most clubs do their business before the season starts.

typical German efficiency 

[ewerk 33034]

8 hours ago, Dougle said:

 

Because you are a stupid egotistical small cocked cunt?

 

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

 

Chumpy?   

 

 

[toonotl 3402]

Completely coincidentally it's also the nickname for Ratcliffe in Ashworth's contact list.

[Alex 36629]

12 hours ago, Isegrim said:

Difficult to say. Maybe they really couldn’t have done anything more or different. But looking at the outcome I do find it difficult to believe that a different kind of planning could have prevented the last minute panic.

 

Looking at it from an outside perspective I am always perplexed about the approach from English clubs in the transfer market and leaving things to the last minutes. You do hardly see this absurd last minute frantic anywhere else. Transfer deadline isn’t as big a thing in most countries. At least in Germany most clubs do their business before the season starts.

I think Gemmill’s point though, which I agree with, is no level of planning can make you force other clubs’ hands in terms of signing our players. You’ve even said yourself it’s the English system that is mainly to blame. 

[Holden McGroin 7508]

9 hours ago, ohhh_yeah said:

 

Chumpy?   

 

 

 Welcome Chumpy.

[toonotl 3402]

For my own amusement, I'm gonna pretend that every youth signing this window is the result of information found on a mysterious hard drive labelled "Secrets for Jim" found haphazardly jammed in the paper shredder in the hallway outside Ashworth's NUFC office some time during February.

[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

If hes taken number 24 then Almiron must be gone

[Toonpack 11310]

40 minutes ago, MrRaspberryJam said:

If hes taken number 24 then Almiron must be gone

Academy number, he's not first team

[Guest MrRaspberryJam]

16 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Academy number, he's not first team

 

Almiron's never been in our academy

[ohhh_yeah 3053]

 

   

 

Elliot Anderson:

 

 

   

Edited July 2, 2024 by ohhh_yeah

[Isegrim 10321]

4 hours ago, Alex said:

I think Gemmill’s point though, which I agree with, is no level of planning can make you force other clubs’ hands in terms of signing our players. You’ve even said yourself it’s the English system that is mainly to blame. 

I do not disagree. Of course it’s not possible to force other clubs to sign players.
With hindsight things are always difficult to judge. But I do still believe that a thorough assessment is needed not to repeat a scenario like this and to try to improve not just our recruitment but also how to get rid of players.

[Gemmill 49649]

He's got NOTHING lads. A German with NO PLAN! 

[toonotl 3402]

I think the PL teams generally treating transfers like a big game of chicken makes it seem a bit chaotic. Perhaps too chaotic for German sensibilities. 

 

Do you have the phrase "playing Chicken" in Germany?

 

Die Hänchen Spiele! Ja, sein lieblings Fußballteam spielt mit alle Club die Hänchen spiele!

 

(Es tut mir leid. I'm trying to learn German. It's clearly not going well. )

Edited July 2, 2024 by toonotl

[PaddockLad 18940]

Javier Manquillo made this fucker look average in the same game at Leeds where Trippier made him look conference level. Never been convinced by him tbh. He’s obviously better than am making out but would he indisputably be an upgrade on Miggy?… 

 

https://www.football365.com/news/newcastle-barcelona-acccept-offer-raphinha-fifth-summer-signing