Gemmill 44864 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I think the plan is to swap Minteh for DCL and say that it was a £35m value for PSR. I imagine if Minteh to Everton doesn't happen, then DCL to Newcastle won't happen. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, David Kelly said: I get all of the PSR stuff, but there's still nothing about signing DCL as a replacement for Wilson that looks good to me. He might prove otherwise, but at this stage I can't see how it's anything but a downgrade. Being totally honest I actually think DCL is a good player, agressive, athletic with good straight line pace especially for his size. A very good header of the ball, can finish with both feet and is good at getting under the skin of defenders (partly because he's a bit of a wanker). He's better than Wilson is currently but if there could be improvement under Howe I could see him fitting in well, that's if we're interested in him. If we're not he's a complete and utter bellend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 17 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I think the plan is to swap Minteh for DCL and say that it was a £35m value for PSR. I imagine if Minteh to Everton doesn't happen, then DCL to Newcastle won't happen. Yeah I was thinking that too. In that sense and others, I'm hoping Minteh ends up elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, OTF said: Being totally honest I actually think DCL is a good player, agressive, athletic with good straight line pace especially for his size. A very good header of the ball, can finish with both feet and is good at getting under the skin of defenders (partly because he's a bit of a wanker). He's better than Wilson is currently but if there could be improvement under Howe I could see him fitting in well, that's if we're interested in him. If we're not he's a complete and utter bellend. Nothing about DLC's last three seasons would suggest he's better than Wilson. He's only ever had two good seasons. What from I can tell, even Everton supporters don't massively rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 19 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I think the plan is to swap Minteh for DCL and say that it was a £35m value for PSR. I imagine if Minteh to Everton doesn't happen, then DCL to Newcastle won't happen. Everton will probably be happy significantly lowering the wage bill whilst technically not allowing DCL to whittle down the contract and leave on a free. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Well if it does, we've got a PSR problem and 6 days to find a new solution, assuming this is a 30 June thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Yeah I was thinking that too. In that sense and others, I'm hoping Minteh ends up elsewhere. Well if it does, we have a PSR problem and 6 days to find a solution, assuming this is a 30 June thing which I assume it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11263 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, David Kelly said: What from I can tell, even Everton supporters don't massively rate him. Thank God for that. Should be brilliant given their track record. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, David Kelly said: Nothing about DLC's last three seasons would suggest he's better than Wilson. He's only ever had two good seasons. What from I can tell, even Everton supporters don't massively rate him. Everton have been wholly dire for several seasons, though they weren't last terrible last season. He's a finisher. If it was a swap between the two (it's not) IMO it would be a no brainer to get the player 5 years younger who's superior in the air and has been playing hamstrung by a poor side. Many Everton supporters didn't rate Gordon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 4 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Well if it does, we have a PSR problem and 6 days to find a solution, assuming this is a 30 June thing which I assume it is. I did read that Lyon were willing to pay what we want. Seems unlikely they can afford to spunk £30-£40m on a pretty untried 19 yr old like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1245 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, OTF said: Everton have been wholly dire for several seasons, though they weren't last terrible last season. He's a finisher. If it was a swap between the two (it's not) IMO it would be a no brainer to get the player 5 years younger who's superior in the air and has been playing hamstrung by a poor side. Many Everton supporters didn't rate Gordon. He couldn't hit a barn door for most of last season until the Burnley keeper kicked one off his arse. I'm not saying he's shit by any means but age is the only thing he has over Wilson. He's not at the level Wilson has been for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polarboy 2311 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I was looking at DCL's injury record and it seems like he may have just had a tough recovery from the broken toe that kept him out for ages. Players usually do get niggling injuries when coming back from such long lay offs, so hopefully that's all it is and he's not going to have a career like Wilson's in terms of injury. One season obviously isn't enough data to say he's going to be fine going forward, but he was fit for the vast majority of last season. As for his goalscoring record it's unsurprising that his confidence and subsequently his goal scoring record would be down at a club like Everton. I'd back Howe to get him back to approaching a 1 in 2 striker which he managed at Everton a few seasons back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33182 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, thebrokendoll said: I know what I think, if he's joining them cunts I hope he's fucking shite. I hope we've got a very good sell on clause which we should have if we're in a better position to bargain than Everton. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 15 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: I hope we've got a very good sell on clause which we should have if we're in a better position to bargain than Everton. first dibs via a buyback clause for not much more than we sold him for, would also be a smart move 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 9748 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 12 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: first dibs via a buyback clause for not much more than we sold him for, would also be a smart move The PSG approach to selling talented youth players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 877 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 He's absolute dogshit, let's not delude ourselves. If this is a fiddle to get around PSR then I accept it as the cost of doing business, and no doubt that loophole will quickly be closed since it was benefiting clubs like us and Villa who the big boys can't allow to get to the top table. But if this is in any way us paying actual pounds sterling for Calvert-Lewin then somebody in the club hierarchy needs their head looked at because he is wretched. We'll need another striker to come in to play backup to Isak because DCL is not good enough or fit enough for that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2651 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 hour ago, David Kelly said: He couldn't hit a barn door for most of last season until the Burnley keeper kicked one off his arse. I'm not saying he's shit by any means but age is the only thing he has over Wilson. He's not at the level Wilson has been for us. I think one of the mods needs to rename David's account to "Wilsons Ego" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gemmill 44864 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: I think the plan is to swap Minteh for DCL and say that it was a £35m value for PSR. I imagine if Minteh to Everton doesn't happen, then DCL to Newcastle won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1256 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 do we rate lee ryder as a source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44864 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 If this was our banker PSR fiddle, it does now put us in a pickle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7295 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 6 minutes ago, The Mighty Hog said: So as I was saying DCL is fucking shit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21915 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 minteh to everton? NEVERTON 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrRaspberryJam Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 If Minteh WANTS to sign for Everton ahead of Lyon or Dortmund then he isn't a player I want at NUFC anyway. You should only ever WANT to leave Everton. I'd sell him for £500k to anyone else now personally and wash our hands with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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